What's she gonna do? Brother? When Jeff Townsend Media runs wild on you when you got yeah, he came, Yeah, came to the show wearing that, he left the show wearing it. Did shows over in England, and sam And was on the shows too. There's a bunch of names on the shows and Sam And we're all on a line to go through customs, you know, and sam And sitting there in the same outfit and his Kendo stick in his hand, and we're all trusted. We're all trying to come up with excuses of why we're all coming into into England. But we're not wrestling because then, of course none of us had the you know, the work permit, because the promoter will that that's too much, that's too much might to invest. So everyone just sneak your way in. So here's a buy like blue meany Sam man Al Snow, you know I was, I was the least assuming of the bunch. Yeah, we're all trying to come up with different reasons of why we just happen to be coming to England for a weekend. My favorite was Tracy some mothers, So what are you doing? Here's I'm a roofer man. What I'm a roofer, are you Are you here to work? Nope? But that's what I do. I'm a roofer. And he's all right, sir, go ahead. So yeah, and he worked, Yeah, Sam and Sam and had his Kendall stick with him and he was a few beers in. You know, are at those moments when you're like, man, I have the coolest job, Like is it to me? Were you just described? Isn't that worth more than some paycheck or some nice car? Like that sounds amazing? Experienced? Man, the experiences right well again, and that's why, and that's why a lot of us would do it for free. It's funny. A quick story. One of the guys that helped me out when I broke when I was breaking in wrestles as angel Armani and he promotes shows down in Milwaukee, and he's just he was trying to make the point of like how much we love pro wrestling, like right, like how much we wore ourselves out for it because it is fun, because it is the experience, right, It's there's nothing else like it. And so at the time I lived in Minneapolis and he lived in Milwaukee. It's about a five five and a half hour drive, and he said, Dan, he said, I'm gonna make a point to you right now. I'm gonna go to my backyard. He said, you know that big oak tree in my backyard. I'm going to nail one hundred dollar bill to it, and you're free to come anytime this weekend and drive down here and take that one hundred dollar bill off the tree. It's yours. And I was like, well why, I was like, why the funk would I do that. That's a five hour drive, Like by the time I paid for gas, spent ten hours in a car for one hundred bucks. He's like, yeah, that's a good point. He said, So hey, I gotta show this weekend. I can give you one hundred dollars. And in that moment, I just went you son him a bitch, you're a one hundred percent right. I would drive down there for free to take that hundred dollars. But if you let me dress up at a costume and beat myself up, I'll do the same exact drive for the same exact one hundred dollars. But I have to have the experience of wrestling, too, right, And that was when And that's the point, right, It's it's the experience. It's the coolest thing ever. And and you know, we do it for free. And if we're so lucky to actually get paid to do it, um, you know even better. Do you ever think the early days were more fun than the famous days, Like when you're actually having like those light bulb moments of oh, I just leveled up to hear, oh wow, I'm in the ECW arena as opposed to MSG like, oh thats as I know the way my personality is. And if I were to reflect back, that would be looked at more following because it'd be like, man, this is like pretty full album seeing myself, you know, or no, I think what I've come to like And this, this last trip to Canada kind of like showed this to me, is there's a beauty to both sides of it and appreciation for both. Like I really loved this last trip I did. We did four days in a row, which I haven't done in a while. We had like you know, I was in the ring truck with with a few of the guys. It was good company, you know, good conversations. We did. We put eight hours in the you know, after the first show, like the next day we did the eight hour drive and that two hour and I was like, man, I kind of missed this, right, And yeah, it's fun when you're you know, when you're doing the WWE Grind or you know you're doing the more you know, upper level TV wrestling. But and it's enjoyable for different reasons, but just that, but just that camaraderie is just kind of hitting the road and just you know, stopping the gas station and you know, it's just I had a good time. And I was like, man, I missed that. And there's less stress, right, there's no and we're not and we're not worried about each other's spots or you know, there's that stress or writers or WrestleMania you know, well, I mean and those things are great, you know, those things are off some too, but a lot comes with that that can take away some of the pure joy because there's a lot more pressure. There's a lot more politics, right, there's a lot more stress with that that you don't have um at other levels when you're just a bunch of guys going out there for the weekend and enjoying something that you like to do and entertaining some people and it's just kind of stripped out of the simplicity of it, and you just appreciate that and just that moment and be able to do it, you know, like someone paid me to drive around Canada and dress up in spandex and and you know, go perform you know, a fight, you know. I mean, it's it's a it's a crazy thing when you think about it. You didn't dress up as the MOUNTI I didn't dress up as the Mountei Bro. I'm sorry, like you didn't like my picture. We just have a different I think. I think I've kind of realized, Jeff, we have it just a different sense of humor. Yeah, that's why it's awesome. Yeah, so I'll just continue to No reason why I asked asked the question was because I want a kick. Way back when I read a lot of wrestler books like joy Go's book and Bret hartbook and time and time again, the most interesting parts of the book was everything before WWF and they were famous. Sure clearly every time I think even mankind and you're going with they're in He's talking about stories of meeting Shane Douglas, like in like eighty five. Mid is so interesting. Brett Harwood dynamite and like the seventies and then they get the w WF. You would think that's the part of why you buy the book, and like every time it's just like, um, you know what I mean, Like it peaked at night before and then as they start telling those stories, I'm starting to be oh, man, that's just thought it's pool. So that was kind of what made me think to ask the question if like you actually had more fun during that time because it comes across like that way in the book. Does that make sense? You know, like yeah, And I would imagine that I bet you a lot of musicians kind of feel that same way too, right, like that that whole grind before they get the record label and they're doing the big arena shows, like those are the those are the stories and the memories that they probably think back and you know, hold finally, And I think part of it too, is like there's something about the struggle to get there that you know that you appreciate, you know, just just that journey because it's not a linear straight line. You know, it's got all these twists and turns and ups and downs and and you gotta be able to to to you know, roll with those, you know, or you're not gonna make it to wherever you're trying to go. So um, there's there's a beauty in both and both sides of it. Obviously, there's something very satisfying about making it, you know, and be able to actually you know, do it professionally and pay your bills. Um. But there's Yeah, this last trip to Canada was like very nostalgic. I was like, oh man, this is cool, Like like I kind of missed that that part of it too. So and also the shows are more fun for me because you get to be up close and personal and really talk to people and hear their story and affect them in a whole different way. You know, have like you know, personal personal conversations with them and for them they said the same thing I heard. I heard a lot, you know, Like this is more fun than the WWW Show, just a different way for a different reason. They get to actually be up close and touch it, you know, and so that brings a different enjoyment value to it. I don't know if you guys watch stand up comedy, but the ones who get the most removed from are the ones in the arenas, Like I have no interest in watching someone who stand up at Madison Square Garden, but when you hear it's like New York City Club five hundred people. Somehow, it's always like way better just between the more authentic brunge of your field the more intimate feel. And I felt like wrestling was the same way. Like that was one of the lessons I took from going to wrestling show at ECW Arena compared to wrestling show at and that she you know you're and that she's cool, but you're really removed from from the feel of what's happening. I think it's more difficult in some ways to do those larger shows. I've done very little stand up in my time. They're very, very very little, but I have done like an auditorium versus just like a small little club, and that auditorium was way more difficult. And as you said, like it's just like it's just a different feel, right, and it's not as intimate. And I think with wrestling too, like there's just some different rules to wrestling in big arenas versus wrestling and small venues, you know, as far as how you approach it, and it could be a little more challenging in those in those larger venues for those all those reasons. Yeah, Like did you know it's difference between Hammerstein and Manhattan Center or it was no difference to you because as a fan I felt the difference between those two buildings. I don't know that I felt a big difference personally, but those shows were always like super crazy, full of energy and the after I mean yeah, yeah, you know regardless, So those were crazy hot crowds for indie level, Like those crowds were on fire at that point. Yeah, I mean that was their biggest market, you know, that was where the biggest matches happened, and obviously it was it was a good setup. You know. Well last flick point, they screwed you on one show while I was there. It was a blizzard and they made you do an Iron Man match, And I told my friend, what are they doing? It was or guy, the fans are gonna turn on him. I said this like fifteen minutes that I swear to go with my friend. I go, bro, I feel so bad for these two. They're gonna get shit on because we're getting twenty inches in snow. None of us can get home, you know what I mean. Like, I don't know if you've picked up on that, but like, oh, I like it was not your boss at all, Like you got put in a terrible position, my opinion, Like I was saying that, Okay, I I didn't book the one hour draw, right, The guy who did book the one hour draw didn't book the Blizzard, right, So those things his fairness, of course. And I've and I've read and i've and I've read people's opinions on that match over the years. I loved it. And let me tell you why. At that time, I was really trying to embrace being a heel, a bad guy in ring, a botter, which was difficult because they just cheered for everybody for the most part, right, And so my thought process was this, I want them to be so fucking pissed by the end of this match that I'm hoping because they had they had kind of drawn out Tyler black down order seth rollins, they had drawn out they had drawn out his chase for the world title too long to where it's like he was over and it's they didn't pull the trigger. It started to simmer a little bit. Now they were trying to like get it back, and so they didn't want to do it at Final Battle because everyone expected it. It's Final Battle, here's where he wins. It was almost too predictable. So I decided to a sixty minute draw. And my thought was, I don't want to give him like some epic sixty minute draw where they all go home like super satisfied and happy, like, oh, that was such a great match. I want him to go. Oh, Mike, I fucking sucked, like right, like fuck Austin Arils, Yeah, fuck him for doing that running the clock out, because that's basically what I like. The first half the match was your standard world title type match, and then it got to a point where I was vulnerable. I was going to lose. I you know, I could you know again, psychology wise, I could feel I was going to lose. So now I was just trying to run out the clock. I wasn't even trying to win anymore. I was just trying to run the clock out for like the last twenty minutes and not let him beat me. Right, And that was and so that's not exciting. My whole thought process as I was trying to figure out how to be a heel at that time, was Okay, my job is not to give the people what they want. That's the baby faces job. His job is to give him the excitement, the cool move. That's not my job. My job is to they know I can do all these things. They've seen me wrestle. They know what I can do, and I'm not going to give it to him. And I'm hoping that translates into them not liking me and then excited when this guy finally does beat me and get the world title. And I felt like, you know, when he did finally, you know, when we had the rematch and he beat me, you know, the crowd was hot for it, and I you know, like I'm not saying that they would have been if we had done a different type of draw, but I've done those type of draws, you know, those epic you know, time just runs out. I didn't want to do that. I want to try something different. Maybe some people hated it, maybe some people didn't, but like I just felt like, I'm gonna piss these people off and they're gonna walk home digging their fucking car out from three feet of snow. God, I can't believe we sat there for fucking an hour for that shit that was me. I had the scrape I had eighteen inches of snow off my car. I couldn't even drive home. Like yeah, but if you watch it back on TV, dats an awesome match. It's really truly is the psyche of the blizzard just worried about, like how am I going to get out of the city. Yeah, you know, because none of us live in the city, so it's not as simple as like you just that's getting out lay it. There's no mass strads, it's getting closed downe off like everyone. Trainings were shutting down, like and I'm just and I'm just internally giggling to myself. The people so pissed, they're gonna be so angry. I didn't book the match. I didn't you know that that wasn't my call. But well, if that's what I'm gonna do, then we're gonna do it like this. So the last thirty minutes, like, well, this thing just end so we can get out of here. Nope, there's Austinari's stalling on the outside again himself. Yeah, that was great. Thoughts of that that always comes to my mind, like that was just so hilarious. So all right, so let's let's let's turn the last little portion here too. What's your favorite conspira give me, give me a few of your favorite conspiracy theories. I think favorite are the ones that I get challenged instantly on like I'm crazy, because to me, that's the funniest. So if I say something like about nine to eleven, a lot of people already agree, So that's not as like, you know, interesting to me. Whenever I bring up Magic Johnson, I get destroyed right away. And and to me, there's there's no I want to say, no doubt because I wasn't there. But when you piece together and you make a timeline, let me take a step back the way my brain works try and reconcile these conspiracies. I always use a timeline, so I go back to when we were told the narrative, and then I try and follow my way, you know, to that. And when you follow the Magic Johnson one, it's like extremely hard to believe that the way he tells a story of getting the HIV's perfectly healthy. We can't find records of him ever getting treated. Every time there's AIDS awareness, he's nowhere to be found. Now he becomes so rich, he's starting up, he's gonna buy the Lakers, buy the Dodgers by this team, by that team. He's got a night show like he's David Letterman. I'm like, wow, this guy's doing pretty good for Oh. Anthony Coucher, by the way, deeply involved in the Yes, I'm renting here, but that's just that came to Mark all right, Brian, So let me see if I have the conspiracy rights. Is the conspiracy that he never had? Aids who is based used as a spokesman? However, I'm not sure if he knew where or not. I'm not sure if he knew though, because they could easily tell him this, you know what I mean that I don't know, but I believe anybody who's yeah, I totally believe he was used as a spokesman. Austin. I found a weird interview. I started searching for if I could find anything where NBA players ever brought this up. There's something amazing. It's like two years after Dennis Rodman has asked about this off the cuff, and he's like laughing as if it's like a work. He's like HIV, He's like what Like that was literally his reaction. I kind of felt, Wow, it's weird. No one ever like even even talked about like, hey, why would he react like that? Like why was he Like, dude, we all know that this is a work essentially that was out. He was acting, you know, so I just thought so and I'm sorry, good good, I was. Then I look at the fallout, so, okay, maybe this is crazy, but who benefits from it? That's benefit overwhelming. I'm going to be skeptical. So the AIDS Foundation um funding through the roof now, because Magic gets the spokesperson right, He's a great spokesperson to lean on your your fears and your emotions. Oh, this is scary. Even Magic Johnson can get it. Even though it does look scared. I go back to watch the press conference. Hilks as happy as anybody. But who knows how that happened? And you know, it just makes sense that you would use a spokesperson like that and follow the money man. The money gets scary in that one to think like, yeah, is it really like a conspiracy to think they would sure naked that much money off of something like that? Oh that Philadelphia comes out. They scare the hell out of you with that movie. You know, if you get this thing, you're gonna you're gonna be the new Tom Hanks. So it's like the typical like propaganda machine just in your face, and it's going into the rat music. They're pupping the AIDS thing all the time. They got they got all these like underpleveraged communities freaking out about they're gonna get AIDS all of a sudden and HIV And I just thought, man, it's really interesting when you follow, like I said, the timeline that I like, Yeah, so that's kind of my theory on that that that that's always with any conspiracy theory, I always go, what's the motivation? Like, what would be the purpose? What are they trying to accomplish? Right with any of them? And the biggest conspiracy theory that I think the vast majority of non conspiracy theorist hold is that people in power give a shit about them. She has no chance, right like that? Like that like chance, they wouldn't lie, They wouldn't lie to me, and they care about me. That's the biggest conspiracy theory that people don't even realize that they believe in because like the reality is, no, they don't give a shit about you, and yes, they lie to you your entire life. That's what I've come to realize. And I I always like to say I'm smart enough to know that I'm not smart enough to know much about much about anything, because we're all just taking educated guesses. So the one thing I would never do is rule out any possibility as possible. And those people that thumb their nose at conspiracy theorists right and think somehow, you know, they make fun of people who are conspiracy theorists. Man, that that level of arrogance and ignorance to think that somehow you know the holy grail of truth that because no one's ever lied you, That to me is is, it's amazing to me. It's like to be a coincidence theorist in thinking everything just happens by coincidence. To me, like, that's Those are the dumbest people walking in the earth, right, that don't think that there's any conspiracy on this planet when it comes to power control and money, right, because there's conspiracy in every field where there's power control and money. Always, always has been, probably always will be. Um. So, yeah, that's an interesting one that I hadn't heard until recently. It's funny you brought that up because I hadn't even thought about it and then but then when that was broken down, I was like, I mean, it's plausible again. I don't I don't say any of these things are true or not. You know, it's it's why, it's why it's called a theory, right, That's why it's It's like germ theory and train theory, those are both theories, but we only we only we only hold one is the absolute truth. Right, Germ theory is the absolute truth. And that's what allows us to continue to peddle this Western medical philosophy. Be on people, right, make I'm afraid they're going to walk into a virus either way to the bathroom. When they take their mask off to eat, they won't get the virus. But when they stand up to walk to the bathroom, then they got to put the mask out because then they might catch the virus anyway. That's always it's the logic is so flawed. This is right, But then you're the problem for questioning things. That's what's so bizarre. Yeah, Like, so what are you hurt by questions? I didn't hurt Magic Johnson. I haven't heart his career. He's doing great, So like who gets hurt by this? The messenger gets hurt. That's what the rest wanted. The messenger is the problem. This whole idea that we should ask questions to me is dangerous. And again it starts in the programming of our school systems. Right, you don't question the authority, you know, you just do what you're told. You do the meaningless work a lot of times, and don't ask why. And I've gotten a lot of trouble in my life for asking too many questions instead of just saying yes, sir, right, and and that's okay. I'll continue to ask questions. I don't tell people. I don't pretend to have the answers. If I had the answers, I wouldn't ask him any goddamn questions. Right, So you said earlier, you said you're in Jersey, but you're going to ahead potentially thinking about going down to Mexico. I was in Mexico for a year in the midst of COVID sold my place in Las Vegas. I thought to myself, being in the middle of the desert. Yeah, I'm in the middle of a desert in a town that's propped up by tourism, and everything's been locked down. There's no natural resources. There's one way in, there's one way out. I did feel safe there. I sold my place. I went down to Mexico. I went down to like south of Cancoon, the ply Del Carmen to loom Er. Yeah, apply Del Carmen to loom which is a big hot spot right now for all the digital nomads. And I had a great time and I actually miss it, and I'm thinking about maybe going back down there some time later in the year. But so you said you're thinking about heading down there because you don't like where you think things are going. Do you want to lab rate on what you're predicted just a theory. Just give us your theory, Brian, Yeah, I get destroyed. I think there's gonna be record American refugees trying to exit and go to Mexico. And there's a couple of reasons why I think that. So the first thing as I started to wonder this was I thought, in my head, if I'm in charge of a country that's collapsing, why would I care if the borders are open, let everyone in and destroy the place who cares? And that's America, right, And that led me to think, what if I was in a better country and I thought my neighbor was collapsing. What would I do? I would tighten the borders. So I talked to a Mexic Mexican Consulate immigration specialist, and sure enough, Mexico actually is tightening the borders. They are Americans and the whold policy getting revamped. And I can't see that as a conspiracy theorist. I truly believe they are anticipating this shit's coming down. People are going to be trying to get the f out of here, and that's why they're tightening things up. Yeah, just a theory. Well, but I'm pretty convinced that, you know, I'm not the only one looking into this, because I spoke to the himself and you can go around their website Mexican docked up. There was ant alert Austin that said, but in bold change through immigration policy forumber what they have been. I like, I know for a fact because I was, I was living down there, and again, you know, through the discussions I had as far as the procedure of how long it could stay there on the visitor visa, um, the procedure to get your to to get your residency, temporary residency, permanent residency, all this stuff is in. The flux had changed and they're tighting it up. They're making it more difficult. They used to anyone who walked in there, they just gave you your ninety days without much of a question, and now it's not. Now they want to know exactly why you're there, how long you're going to be there, and they'll give you that exact number of days, if it's thirty two days. So the right thirty two days, said yeah, and so, and that's why I said, maybe maybe they're building the wall not to keep the Mexicans out of the US, but to keep the Americans in the country. So they talked about I think, right, that's exactly what connection. Yeah, very interesting. So what do you think? I mean, you know, my my analogy is a couple of them. If if you believe that there is a push to globalize this world, to have a one one central power sort of speak, governing, you have to undo the current superpower, right, if you're going to have a new superpower in place, as a you know, a new world order sort of speak, right, one world government, then you have to get rid of the old superpower and you have to start, you know, undermining it. So I always say, if you're if you're going to remodel your kitchen, the first thing you have to do is tear out your old kitchen. Got your demolition, you can't you can't put new sink in where the old sink is if the old sinks still there, right, you can't put you know, so you got to tear all the old stuff out. I feel like that's what we're in the process of right now, is the tear down process from within of this country. And you know, if you blow your tiger out when you're going sixty five down the highway, you know immediately if you have a slow leak in your tire, you don't know you have a problem until it's flat. And that's why I feel like we're in this slow leak phase. Inflation, housing prices, food crisis, right, all these all these things that they've been telling us are and will continue to happen, is the slow leak. If it all happened at once, right, we know it. But it's this slow leak and um and keep people distracted enough so they're not paying attention with all these other things, right, And I would say, if you if you keep people arguing back and forth about two sides of a lie, they'll never get to the truth. Yeah, and that's and that's what I feel. We do a lot of times they give us two sides of the lie that we argue which side is right, which side is wrong, who's a conspiracy theorist, and who's telling the truth. But the reality is both sides are lies, and then we end up completely missing the truth. The truth is hidden somewhere else a lot of times right under our nose, right, but we'll never acknowledge or accept it. A lot of people can't. In January six is a great example of that. Today it's the leading story. It feels like I'm watching you know, WWF Superstars in nineteen nine, view like it's a total scripted act. Meanwhile, I'm looking at the financial numbers. I mean, this thing's about to die. And the leading story is some Jan six testimony of this guy and that guy, because, like you said, it's one big lie and they're just playing on the emotions of the two. And there's no reports coming out about the housing the auto one and a half trillion in auto debt, one trillion in credit card debt, thirty two trillion in American debt, three hundred and fifty trillion global debt. Eventually these numbers have to do do something. People keep telling me, oh no, this has been taking the can down the road forever. That is just not how it works. You do reach a point where one part is too small, one part is too high, and this thing, avalanche, is out of control. Does that make sense? Yes? No, and when and it's it's set up to avalanche because you get create the problem, offer the solution. So when an avalanches and the financial systems collapse and people are driven into poverty and starvation and not be able to pay their electric bills because electric you know, the costs are too high, that's when they offer the solution. And to me, the solution is going to be in the form of some standard living wage. Right, we're gonna pay you. We're gonna pay you thirty thousand dollars a year to be a good consumer slave. But we're gonna pay to you in the form of digital currency that we completely control. And you're only and you'll only be eligible to get this money if you follow X, Y, and Z. Make sure your vaccinations are up to date, make sure that your social media is saying the right thing, your social credit score. These things are happening around the world right now. You know, this is my crazy conspiracy theory. Right We're we're staging and we're pushing towards this war with Russia and China. It's like it's like they're intent on creating this war with Russia and China, right and they're using the Ukraine as is a you know, a reason for it. But I believe that the China, the Chinese system is what they want globally for everybody. That type of control, that type of obedience, They could never force it on people, so they they need to make the people choose it for themselves or make the people believe that it's for their greater good again right there, that's the truth. If we have a cyber pandemic, which they've already done their tests, they've already done their test run for it. Right. So, right before COVID nineteen hit, for people that don't know, a few months before COVID nineteen hit, they did a simulation called Event two O one, and all the names were there, all your leading names, the biggest banks, you're Bill Gates Foundation, the Clinton Initiative, they were all there, and they did a simulation event I believe, over two days where they similar related what would happen if there was a pandemic of a coronavirus. This is the absolute truth. It's verifiable. I'm not making it up. They used a simulation event a few months before COVID hit where they basically went through they had mock news reports, they talked about what the strategy would be to combat misinformation, all these things, and then three months later it actually happens. If you're a coincidence theorist, that's just how it loves, right, there's someone like me, You go, that's interesting, just like just like it's interesting. The day nine to eleven happened. There was also some simulation event where they were off somewhere else simulating the very thing that was happening while it was happening. Okay, So I say all this to say they've already ran their simulation event for what would happen if there was a technological you know, pandemic, a cyber pandemic, if all a sudden, the Internet was compromised. Okay, think about this. Imagine the lines that there were for toilet paper. Dude, I bring that up all the time. Okay, what's gonna happen. What's gonna happen If there's a cyber pandemic and people can't access their money, they're all going to go to the bank to pull their money out and then realize your money is not in the bank, and then the system collapses. When the system collapses, that's tearing out your old kitchen. Well, now we get to remodel, put our new kitchen in. It's gonna be a digital currency. It's programmable. The digital currency I hear that they're using in China has an expiration date. Right, So we'll give you three thousand a month, but at the end of the month it expires. That's a good way to make sure people don't accumulate wealth and they don't save their money for a rainy day, to keep them always dependent on the system. Right, your social credit score drops too low, you're no longer eligible for that money. Oh did you say this on Twitter? Facebook? We're fine or taking some of your money away? Yeah. Oh, if you don't get your if you don't get your booster next week, you're no more You're no longer eligible for that money. See, this is the slippery slope, and and that that you know comes very quickly. And so yeah, man, uh so I feel like, you know, we're being set up for this world war with Russia and China, and we're booked to lose here in the US US US's book. Don't use this one, right, this is all work anyway, it's all it's all, it's all being booked. So we're booked to lose that they can usher in this this system that they want, you know. And and I and I and I do feel in some way, shape or form, in the next ten years things are going to continue to move that way. Uh, unless the people wake up and don't go along with it. I know, if any much sooner, I'm thinking the end of this year, you're going to see unrecognizable shit. I'm trying to hold out some hope. I mean, yeah, but it's just the end of financials. Like I'm telling you, man, it's dangerously close to one domino. It's not gonna be like, oh eight, we're only one domino fell and they fix the other dominoes. I say that not the board vote with too many financials. But in the commercial banks there's something like nine trillion in obligations meaning deposits, right, they're at the lowest point they've ever had an assets to cover it. It's something like one hundred and fifty billion. If you think of that in percentage, it's probably not even two percent. I'm doing live map and maybe off, but I think about that, they're not even close to ten percent. How could they get to fifty percent if people come running in there to get the money? Like way the spread is that wide of what they owe to what they actually have to cover it. Sure, that's what I mean why I started looking at this situation different because it truly is on precedented. That was not the case in Oh wait, that wasn't even the case in nineteen twenty eight twenty nine as they led up to the Great Depression, Like these numbers are or just numbers that never existed before. And I swear I'm out a doomsday guy. I say this in hopes of warning people because I don't want to hear people who got caught up in a bank run or got caught in a food shortage. Like I'm not saying it's for an ego. I don't even have a social media to promote. I'm literally just saying this stuff because I honestly believe it and I would hope people start thinking differently and stop watching the wrestling version of politics. You know, six this and Anderson Cooper said this about Trump, Like, dude, we aren't. Weren't. I don't want to go I'm just saying that that's just it's it's one hundred percent pro wrestling. That that that is one thing I've been called. I've been called a liptard, right, a soy boy because I'm vegan, right, And I've been called I've been called a maga because if you don't agree with one side, then the other side automatically assumes that you're for the other side and they attack you and they label you. And I'm like, guys like, but politics, it's pro wrestling. They pretend to fight each other and then they go they get paid by the same person. Right. It's like I always use the analogy of I say, all right, what would you like to eat for dinners for the next four years? Peas or carrots? By the way, they come from the same farm. And then after a thing, Yeah, so no matter which one you pick, the farmer gets paid four years later. I go, okay, now you have a choice which like peas or carrots? And you're like, well, shit, I just ate peas for four years. I think I'm gonna try saying carrots. Switch right, So that's for four years carrots. And then they come and say, okay, now you have now you have a choice for dinner. Would you like peas or carrots? Like, does that really feel like a choice? That's the last Yeah. Yeah. So the last time I voted was for Obama. And that was when I was That was when I was firmly in the matrix and I was drinking the cool age, and it was after. It was funny. It was because after he got elected and then I saw the shift just in his rhetoric and just the way that he his energy from the you know, trying to get elected to when he was in there. And I just had this like this moment where I was like, oh shit, man, this is like this is all a work. I've been getting emotionally manipulated. I'll be getting emotion manipulated. And the left does it. The left emotionally manipulates by making you feel like you're a better person if you believe what we believe. You're more caring, you're more virtuous, you're more inclusive. If you believe what we believe, and then the right they make you feel it by feeling like you're more patriotic, You're you're more of a real American, right Like if you believe this so an identity game of yeah, and it's just emotional manipulation. And again, keep people arguing about two sides of a lie, and they'll never figure out the truth. And that's what I think politics does. Like you said, you know, listen, if it comes on your screen, it's there for a reason. If it's being broadcast on a news channel, on a radio, and it's there for a reason. You know, from a mainstream perspective. It didn't accidentally that story, didn't accidentally get out there. That news article didn't accidentally make the New York Times, right, Like, these things are all out there with a purpose, and so we have to use the discerning mind. And I've always been a little bit skeptical. I've always been a very you know, like fuck the system type of mentality. That's what I realized. They had me by my balls, by the food they were feeding me, making me sick, you know, and then that just trickled down into all these other areas in life. So yeah, I think I think that we should be asking questions, We should be skeptical, and the onus on the people that are trying to sell us stuff that they're telling the truth, not on me to prove that they're lying, because I've got I've got history to show that they've been lying for a long long time about just about everything that I hold it. You know that we hold his truth. I had a thought when you talked about the matrix. So the reason why I asked about the voting. I never voted before. And my reason was when I kind of had one of my matrix moments to me and my grandfather was like a really smart guy. But when voting came, this was before it was downballot, was called the cross ballot, he would just R R. I would just watch it and check every R. I remember asking him, have you even heard of these guys? He had never heard of one of them, didn't matter, it was just R because he was are you know what I mean? Republican? And that was every time, every year, not even every four years. If that was all he did. That's when it started dawn on me, like, well, why would I do that? Right? You know what I mean? So then I It's like voting for the All Star Game. You just check everyone that plays for the team that you like. Right, it was literally what he did, that's it. Yeah, that's all. It's entertainment. Never hears entertainment. Those you know, my my pops, he's you know, he's he's you know, follows politics, and I a would say them, was like, who was your favorite president? He's it Reagan? So what was Reagan? He was an actor? The fucking actors? That real? Right? What about you? Jeff got you got you? You got any thoughts on this conspiracy stuff, politics, anything? I don't know. You'd like to believe that, like the like there's a good cause behind everything, but then again, you know there's not. So I definitely don't believe in consequences necessarily. I think thanks happened for a reason. Yeah, I've started, I've started. I've started to move away from this idea that like there's good and evil, like oh this is bad, this is bad, and this is good and this is good. These people are bad and these people are good. I believe it's just all duality. Like we need we need to we need to have both to move forward and to evolve, right, Like we can't just have light without dark. And the more, you know, the more dark there is, then sometimes then the more the light shines, you know. And so I tend to think, like if I think of the Earth as its own living organism, and we're just like the eight billion cells that make up the Earth, like it's evolving, it's figuring out who it's gonna be, and there's always going to be this constant pull, just like we all have inside of us into what wins out. And because some of it's gonna be dark, someone's gonna be light, you know, And you know ultimately that that's evolution. One thing for sure. The sun will fill one day, The sun will one day and will die one day. I mean, that's what they say. But how do we know. Maybe maybe maybe it's just run out, Maybe it's just run on. Maybe it's a solar solar sun yep, solar son maybe, or maybe it's uh, it's you know, Tesla, you know, maybe it's Tesla owns it and it's just some dude you can't trust. Musk. We're a long ways away from being able to get out of that happening, though, because I guess is what I'm saying. Yeah, no, yeah, I'm with you on that. Yeah, the elon Musking is interesting. He seems to be saying all the right contrarian things at the right time, because again, you always got to give him a hero. You gotta get both sides their hero, you know, you gotta get both brilliant. We're watching the playbook like then, just executing the playbook on us and going, oh, well, Musk posted these files. Yeah he did. And bad guys can do things that have positive consequences. You've seen if you study real history books, not indoctrinated high school ones, actual real books all the time in the bad it's just the way it works, right, So like, yeah, must can be a bad guy. And along the way, Yeah, it's great that he's posting this stuff. But where this leads I don't see as a place of good like not ad example stuff too good example. So that's a good example. Like I always watched the show called Air Crash Investigators. Right, these terrible crash has happened for some reason that was completely preventable, but nine out of ten times they actually implement something out of it that helps you know that in that industry be safer. So now I get exactly what you're saying. That's immediately what I thought of. Something bad happens, but there could be something good that comes from it. Sure, yeah, that's how it feels to me. I don't know the guy personally. It's just like we're looking at one of the wealthiest guys. Now he's got tax soon I'll have our food like Gates and Amazon and Besils. Like he's just following the same playbook. It's just once a baby face, one's a heel, but it's the same. That's it's the same baby face and heel. You get wrestling. You can't have life. You can't have a wrestling match with two heels. It doesn't want two baby faces, right, I just want to get that's when people get, you know, and I listen. I'll admit I got caught up in this for a little bit. But people got so emotionally upset with Trump. They still do. That's like still an answer to combat things. Well Trump this it's like Trump was just playing, like he was playing the role of the heel to like get people like emotionally upset so that you could then have the baby face. We can at Biden's coming in here, prop this dude out right, like a guy can barely walk, Like I really yeah, I mean that that's a whole other thing. But like that's all it is. It's this sicular baby face, heal, baby face, heal, right, come back. Do you think they know it or they're just like buying into the unknowingly almost going along with the playbook? Is one of you, I guess see what I'm saying, Like the individuals so and that, and that's like a that's like a whole other interesting thing. Because like people talk about like selling their soul, right, like you know, selling celebrities sell their soul like to the you know, to the illuminarity and all these things. And I think we think of it in like too literal of a sense, Like they go to some room and they're like giving like this book. I'm like okay, and here's where you're gonna be and they signed some document. This is where I start getting in spiritual a little bit. And like non human entities and and and spiritually they're overtaken by these forces, whether they realize it or not. And so it's not like a literal sense when people are sell their soul or they're not even aware of it, right, it's like greed. Right, it's like becoming like it's doing the things you have to do to become a billionaire. Right, Like you either are consumed by this spirit that drives you to to be that kind of person, which more often than not, it's going to be at the expense of a lot of other people. And you either accept that spiritual nature or you or you resist it. And so I don't know that people are consciously choosing it as much as they're not. They're they're overtaken by it and they're just going with it unconsciously and it becomes who they are and more of like a spiritual level more than anything than like they have some secret meeting and go, Okay, now you're in on the on the scam. Does that make sense? You know? I think we're yeah, you know, I think you're right. I did a deep dive into nine to eleven, and again, I know you're not supposed to do this, but I did it anyway. And I did what I would have called like a really forensic style research. You know, I really mapped it out like you would see on a police show. Right, So you know, you have your head guy at the top, and you try and frame it out and then build a timeline out. And why I bring that up, it's like in the beginning, before you do that, you think, oh man, this is a big conspiras. There's no way a bunch of guys got in a room and said here's what you're doing. Sure, when you're really studying, what you realize is it actually only takes two or three and the foot soldiers. All they have to do is give the foot solders just enough to go do this and do that. And in my mind, as I studied it, and again I didn't watch the NBC News version like the actual FBI documents, the nine eleven commission, I mean I studied that's all. That's how it happened. Probably four guys know what actually happened, if I had to guess, and the rest were unknowing foot soldiers. They just did their one task that they were told this. And I have the receipts, I have the dog commenced. It's not I'm making it up, like you know so, But that's that's how they're saying. That's how the world works, right, like you know again, Like that is goes back to don't question authority, just do what you're told. And so if if three people on the very top are the conspirators and they tell the people below them, here's what you're doing. They don't ask them questions. Why they just what you're told. I gotta pay my bills. I got a mouths to feed, right and then and then so then they tell the twelve people below them, so here's what you need to do. Well, why am I doing that? Because those are the orders? Because that was what I was told to tell you to do. And by the time you get five layers deep, you're so far removed from the very top entity that's controlling it. You don't need a hundred people in on it. You need a few people that manipulate the situation. And again, keep people in the dark and give them just the information they need to know to do what they need to do, and no more, no less, you know. And I think that's how a lot of the world works. I'll give you a quick interesting stout on this. And like ninety eight, they were doing the bombings in Kenya at the different embassies and like major destruction. So Clinton comes out says it, says it's Osama. Right now, they're starting to build the new heel right, we're done. We're taking a break from Saddam. They're starting to build this new heel. Osama Bin lauded. So he says that a year later, I would have the receipts. Guess who gets the contract to clean up the destruction they've been laud in family. Literally they get the government contract one hundred and fifty billion to clean up the destruction that Bill Clinton went on TV and told us that guy did it. I see how this doesn't reconcile. If you have a math brain and everything's an equation, how can I say this and this like, dude, at whole point, it's just like, come on man, this is not Alex Stones. They try and get you thinking your suma, you know, crazy like dude, come on man, this is like it's like right there in front of you, you know. And that's why I always all the world's a stage. I think, I think what happens at us talk with my aunt about this, right. The hard part for most people is they think every they think everyone's like them, and they could never fathom being the type of person that would do these things right. And so, you know, we don't think that there's some people wired differently or again are overtaken by different type of spiritual entities. They allow themselves to be taken in that direction. And so it's hard to wrap your head around the fact that there could be such evil, But there is because I know that, because on the other side of duality there are such beauty and generosity and you know, and love and that come from some people. And if so, if that's the case, that we have to accept that on the other end of that spectrum, there's people that are just as evil as these people over here are good. And that's just the world we live in. And now we have to decide is basically you, who are we going to listen to? And I always say this to people, the only difference between you and me and our opinions is who we decided to listen to and what their version of the truth is, because none of us know, right. So if you decided, if you know, if you really identified in your politics and you identified as a liberal, then you listen to the those channels and those people tell you what to do when it comes to COVID, when it comes to you know, all these different issues. That's who decided to listen to. And if you decide something different, you know, over here, then you listen to other people. If you're someone like me, you listen to them both, and then you try to find the truth somewhere in the middle. But it's weird that most of all we listen to are the ones that are selling us something so right now and maybe saying crazy things. I'm not even selling a social media like, I'm not telling anything, you know. I mean, so my might at least I'm always more interested in someone doesn't mean they're right. I'm just saying I'm more open to Okay, well, it doesn't feel like he's selling me a thing, so I'm more open to what he's saying as opposed to over here, I'm being sold to this and that and this. You know, then I'm going to get more suspicious because I'm sold ten different products, ten different ideologies. That same person is benefiting off what they're saying. Yeah, when someone's not, you know, I'm like, Okay, Wow, he's taking a risk by telling you this. Maybe he even has something to lose, nothing to gain, everything to lose. Yeah, so I kind of your ship. If we have one more men, I have a really fast, funny conspiracy on a much lighter note. Let's do it with that Stephen A. Smith, if you think about it, sounds a little like Stephen Cia Smith, and I kind of think you start to dig into him, this is a total operative And there's a reason. First of all, he's supposed to be a sports guy. Every narrative he's on point hundred out of a hundred times, the mainstream, you know, decided narrative. He's spitting out and not even going like a tiny bit off topic. Kyrie irving post an Amazon, like this guy's calling him like the next Hitler, with like no evidence. You know, all he did was supposed to link to Amazon. I mean every time he has Jeff Bezils is cool for selling the book. But but Kyrie, you know, tweets about it and he's Hitler. And if you look into Stephen A Stats in typical Cia fashion, you can't find any Somehow, he made college and he got hurt in like the first game he took one shot and then he never did anything again. And there's like no evidence of any high school of anything. As I was digging into this, have you ever heard of Kwame Brown? Of course? Yeah? Ye, So this was really interesting. As I'm digging into my CIA rabbit hole, I find him. He makes a video analyzing Steve and a one time in a pregame shooting at basketball, and dude, do you know what he said? He said, it is not possible based on his fundamentals, that that was an actual player. That's his own words. You can find that video. He goes, it is not possible. He goes all of his fundamentals like you would never make college and you can't even Like so I thought, wow, it's interesting because I was already thinking something's way off here with what he gets paid, every narrative he has. He doesn't know goddamn thing about sports, and this guy was saying kind of that too. So it doesn't mean I'm right. I'm always saying. It made me start to add those pieces of like, oh, it's interesting now he's saying he can't even shoot. So yeah, ah man for the Yeah, Steven A. Smith, I'll tell you, Yeah, he's making a total character. Yeah. It just feels like they created him somewhere and they pumped him out to the public and he's sure convincing and how he sells things, I mean, he got people that hate Kyrie Irving no reason he's always with the narrative. When Crower didn't take the vaccine, stephen A instantly you'll get him out of the league. Like all this shit, I'm don't matter what. Yeah, every narrative he has, so yeah, I know to Wackey theory, it's kind of funny to talk about. But that's like one of my stranger ones. Dude, he is something man the ship. He's willing to say, that's what I mean. You just start to pay attention to him, and it's like, wow, yeah that's the shit you say. Interested, never thought of it. Now gonna now next time I listen to him, I'm gonna look with a little different lens. That's it. And you shouldn't think laid a bed to night on your cell phone researching the people in charge. You know how popular sports are? Yeah, right, so it's not that crazy. They would infiltrate sports. They infiltrate Hollywood, they INFILTRATEE TV media. You wouldn't think to infiltrate sports. Sure, that's how I look at right, It's not like out of but so whateverly and it will wrap up with this, and I appreciate you spending time. It's been it's been a fun conversation. I think part part of the whole, part of the whole, I think we need to remember, and at least the thing I need to remember remind myself is it's okay to be inquisitive and to question these different narratives. But if that consumes you, they got you there too, they still won. So so it's like that's where we have to go back to. Okay, I try to stay aware, have my thoughts, but ultimately, the way I win, if, if ever, if everything I think is true, right, if every conspiracy and an agenda I think is true is true, then the only way to really win is to just fucking live my life to its fullest. Love, laugh, right, that's it. Love and laugh. Those are the two things. And that and that's ultimately how you combat whatever whatever evil intentions there may be in what's going on. But if you live consumed with what's happening, if you're if you're you know again people our twenty four seven just eating up the narrative, whether there's people twenty four seven just constantly you know, debunking the narrative and coming up with you right, that's still a narrative. Is so you're still you're still you're still caught in it. You're still caught in the matrix. And I think the whole thing is you gotta then disconnect and then just enjoy life. Enjoy, enjoy chewing that food, Enjoy, enjoy getting going, going for a walk in the forest, you know, just just the simple things. Because ultimately, you know, the way that the way that good wins is we all raise our vibrational energy. We all raise our emotional vibrations right to that next frequency of love and peace and happiness. And so we can't do that if we're all day worrying about what the real agenda is or what's gonna happen. Yeah, you know what's gonna happen, because say there's a balance. So for me, I don't worry about it. It's more I won't go as far as entertaining, but it's fun to just like that's my guilty pleasure, like talk to my friends about like these kind of weird things. So for me, that's I'm out there on the front lines of any of these clauses. You know. It's just like, yeah, this magic Johnson thing's funny in my head. It's it my friends getting check out of it. So like for me, that's like how I would say, some people want to watch Tom Tom Hanks movies. I want to talk about if Tom Hanks is a big pedophile or not. Well that sounds awesome. That would be the next episode. Yeah, right, this is it's all where we get our entertainment value from. Right, That's it. Yeah, So yeah, anything anything you want to anything you want to finish up with Jeff, you said so much this this episode. I was just being polite as being a good boy, Like, I know, it's different when you gotta like a threesome here right, Uh well, I mean it is, but then again, it's about taking it all in for me. I mean it's learning something new with you every week, mister Aris as your fans call you, Yeah, and trying to irritate you a long way a little bit. So no, it's been awesome and I look forward. I appreciate Brian first time, and I look forward to all these people. He pulls interesting people up out of his hat. Man, He's like you never you never know what he's gonna talk about. So I'm along for the ride. I guess that is what I'm saying. But yeah, thank you both. Thank you for me, this was amazing, especially the hell I went through. Like I said, these are I don't want to get too corny, but these are the things I appreciate in life. Now. You said, if Aoston must to buy me a car, that's nice of them. But this is way more fun, you know, because it just is so like this truly is the things that yeah me, Like, dude, I was pumped for this. I'm not like ashamed to admit it. When you told me you were coming on, I'm like, oh man, well it was gonna be so much fun. Like I was. I was seriously that pumped up. So do it again sometime. We could always use some extra content time hopefully, like people don't hate it, but I aw some time. Oh and if I don't give a shit. If they do hate it, hey listen, I'm not listening. Then it's not for them. That's okay. I believe it's like if you just stick with your what you know. For me, it means you've talked about this. When we're gonna do this, I'm gonna do the shit that I want to do that interests me. I'm gonna bring the people on that interest that that I'm interested in talking to that I think, you know, have a cool story or have a cool perspective. And it's not going to be for everybody. And some wrestling fans that'd be always hardly talking about wrestling, that's okay. You know, some people that know me from the being community might be like always talking too much wrestling or conspiracy theories. That's okay. Eventually, if we stick with this and we just keep being authentic the people that are interested in this and this stuff, we'll find this right and we'll build and we'll build our community that way. And and that's the other thing too, is I want to bring on I want to bring on all sorts of kind of people. And like, I don't mean this in any offensive way, but like Brian, you're just a normal You're like a normal cat bro. I yeah, I was introduced to you as a wrestling fan. So it wasn't like you're not here to sell something. You're not trying to you know, promote your show or this or that. Like you're just you're just a dude like me that that I got to know a little bit and said, man, he's got a cool ass story and he's got some cool, interesting perspectives. That's the guy that I want to spend an hour or two with and and just talk, you know, and just kind of shoot the ship. And that's what this is coming. So I appreciate you joining it. Yeah, we'll do it again. We've only action serve as a conspiracy so when we want to do another good conspiracy theory episode, we'll get your back on here and we'll dive in don some more the rabbit holes. Please do man, I have no books of materials, so I can go for hours time. I believe you do. Thank you so much, guys, this was an amazing time from how I really appreciate it. Thank you. Take care of Jeff, take care of Austin. See a man. Yep. Thanks for listening everybody. Well, we'll catch you next time on the Austin Area show The Baby Jeff Downton Media Bar
