People are missing the end of AEW television, which Network will Monday night Raw be on?
Bill DeMott ExperienceDecember 21, 2023x
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People are missing the end of AEW television, which Network will Monday night Raw be on?

On this episode of the Bill DeMott Experience, Bill and Jeff discuss Bryan Danielson disciplinary committee conflict of interest, AEW overruns resulting in viewers missing the ending of shows, Ric Flair AEW contract, Goldust hall of fame, Monday Night RAW's tv future and On this Day in Pro Wrestling History.
What you gonna do, brother, when Jeff Townsend media runs wild on you? All right, all right, all right, this is Jeff Townsend, of course, joining me is Bill Damont. This is the Bill Damont experience, the experience, the live experience. This is better than well, what other live experience should I compare it to? Uh? The whole roller coaster? Universal? No clue what you're talking about? When I'm gonna go with it? What did you say it was? They have the hope like the roller coaster, the incredible hope. Guy, there's a whole roller coaster there now, Okay, okay, yeah, man, I haven't ever been there. I've seen it, watched it, and it's not I don't find it to be necessary, So I stay far away. I'm tweeting out to tweeting out to x posting on X the world is it? Are I saying it right? Post tweet? I have I've asked kids. I've spoked to a bunch of kids this week, you know, and I asked them, am I exing or my tweet? And xing is a whole different thing apparently. So I'm gonna I'm gonna stay. I'm gonna stay with the tweet. Yeah, who knows what that could mean. I mean, really I really know what that means. Xing xing, I was told was the equivalent to old school XE. Okay, I said, Okay, I'm not xing. We're not axing on the lives strain this evening, Ye, we are gathered here together to do the weekly live show where we will talk about some good old wrestling. But to kick things off first, what's going on with the foundation this week? And how are you doing? Bill? Good good good stuff starting in December. Again, thank you always for forgiving me a time to catch everybody up to it and speak about it. We had some good conversations this week. Internally, I did get to meet with a lot of great young people from the Seminole County area. How far is that for? What? How far is that from you? Actually where we were in the county was about just thirty thirty minutes down the road. So it was actually it kind of was a benefit to both parties because it was one that we knew we could get to and it was kind of a last minute thing. And so here's a quick background, without mentioning too much. A couple of the newer drivers in the household old well that rules it down. Not not in my household. Oh okay, okay, no, no, yeah, not not so it's not Billy. Let me get that out of the way right now, because that did sound funny. Although he's a new driver in the household, some some newer drivers in the area have found their way to their new found freedom, and they needed a a talk and a reminder of how important they are as people and how important it is that they continue to be safe. So we had a great like an hour and a half, little little little meeting, and it was really it was really good. Parents attended and just some good things tailing going, you know, finishing this year out and starting the new year. We're we're on a high positive note going into the new year. So everything with the Foundations, you know, it's been it's been a busy year. It's been a kind of a rough year emotionally for the for the family, but foundation wise, where right where we should be and everything everything's going good. We get a great toy drive going on right now. We partner every year with they call it Baby dj SO, the top radio top radio station here in Central Florida, led by Johnny Magic, and every year the Foundation is now we partner with them and it's his group is called Baby DJ. They literally get the fourth floor of this great office building, the whole fourth floor they give them and they, when I tell you, they fill this place with toys and bikes and the amazing things. So every year we do this. So our toy drive is going on, and it's just really cool to see people that are coming in out of the offices dropping toys in the boxer, or dropping toys at the house, or dropping toys off at Lacey's work. So it's really cool. And so yeah, the Foundation just gearing it for the holidays, and you know, this is our unfortunately, this is our busiest season the holidays and traveling and the safety aspects of what we do. So everything's but everything's been positive, going really strong. And uh, again I appreciate the time, and oh thank you for asking. The phone is getting blown up with people listening to this live across Twitter, Facebook. Uh, this is an update. I'm hoping next week we can go live on TikTok. See. Now here's the thing, TikTok. You have to have a stream key in some of these TikTok's very secret about the stream key but my page, I have a pretty great, good brooking audience there is pertained wrestling. And actually my phone's getting blown up for another reason today on this day of for restling history, which we will cover later. Uh Mixter Eric Bischoff is a fan of the page and has has retweeted. So my phone is all day because of what mister Eric Bischoff shared and we'll get to that later. So okay, very cool. We've got a lot on the plate today. We'll give what we can done with the time that we have. One of them is a really big ask, but I did listen to what they wanted to share it. It was funny. But yeah, we got a lot of going on today. Bill. How much? How much wrestling have you watched this week? Man? I've been Let's try to catch up. Let's see. I I watched most of RAW. Did I miss anything this weekend? Was there something this weekend? Oh? I hope not. No, I don't know. So I didn't miss much wrestling this weekend. I watched Monday, I watched most of NXT. I watched bits and pieces of Dynamite. So I feel like I feel like I'm caught up. And I'll say this I'm caught up on the things that I'm interested in. If that's yeah, that's a crappy way. But then I've caught up on the things i'm interested in. Man, I tell you what. Uh it's not on the agenda to talk about necessarily, but NXT just continues to impress me. It's uh, yeah, it feels like it's back in full force. I know he's been saying that, but it's sustaining, so it's exciting. Yeah. So I'm torn sometimes when I see some things on NHT because I feel like momentum is building, and then sometimes I'm like, ah, I don't know if that necessarily fits it, but I understand the the you know, the the process and the thought behind making sure that you get enough of these segments in. But I agree, I think NXT continues to uh to build it. I think a lot of that has to do with the main roster talent being incorporated into uh into the system again. So yeah, good on them, they're they're they're they're doing good. I'm just glad we're past the two point zero relaunch phase that will go and that wasn't gone anywhere, No, it was not. So I'm uh I'm happy with it, man, and uh, I think most people are. And uh, it's been a good week all around. I would say there were some good matches on all across the shows. But let's kick things off with our favorite person to talk about me. It's just mine see him punk. So last week we talked about the disciplinary committee that Brian Danielson headed, and this week I was listened into Vince Russo's podcast, which you used to be used to be a member of the network. Well you're yeah, what'd you say? Yes? Say it? Well it used to be called what the RELI the brand now? But yeah, you're you're saying the real you're a plugging machine. Anyways, your buddy Al Snow was on Vince Ruso's podcast this week and he talked about this. Have you seen this clip at all? Nope, Nope, let's get into it. Al Snow is asked by Vince Russo about this disciplinary disciplinary committee. Right, can you imagine how one of the boys, one of the boys, determining your another one of the boy's fate. Can you imagine this bro? Stupid and shortsighted? Can you possibly be who? What? Do you have legal counsel standing right there? Let me ask, in all seriousness, what value does that legal council bring if one of them, that outside attorney or that legal council don't bring up and go, hey, Tony, don't you think that might be a bit of a conflict of interests and might impugne any case that we could develop as far as the court of law, Because all I have to do if he another wrestler who is performing in front of the camera and now has a vested interest in what his position on the card is compared to me, any action disappointing he takes against me, I can dispute in a court of law and will win the case because it's easy to argue he has a conflict of interests. I mean, for Christ's sake, that's any who cannot see that all that to me, that is stupider than naming some of the boys executive vice presidents. I think that's even worse. What put them in the position they were in with pulp because three vps got in a physical altercation backstage with talent because they were talent too, which is a conflict of interest. What you need to fire both of those attorneys right now, because if not one of them brought it up. I mean, in all seriousness, no one with Hey wait a minute, this probably might not be a good thing. Isn't Brian wrestling on the show? Yeah? Uh? Do you think somebody might want to point out that Brian might be a little jealous or take retaliatory action against somebody, or even you know, somebody could say that that he's doing it because he's got a spot on the card. Ah, it'll be fine. And now that is all because Tony Khan wants to be be loved and liked by everybody. He'd know. He goes to Tony. Hey, listen, Hey, punk, I had a committee, man was it wasn't my decision? You need to go talk to the committee. Bro. Can you freaking imagine? Bro, It's not. I don't have a problem with committee. I don't know. No, I'm just saying, but the head of the company does that so that heat doesn't go to him, right, you're absolutely well, then that's fine. Do what Vinceta he had wordis you know what I mean? And John Mordice was not a wrestler, you know, John wardis was all there is. God be a clear delineation between the in office and being a wrestler. Yeah, you can occasionally have someone straddle the line for a brief period of time, but we didn't touch upon this part of it. We touch upon the let's say, the flip side of it. How unfair this release was in regards to Brian Danielson, Right, but you could definitely look at it this way. Well, of the two, as as you know, Al and I have a long history together. Al is the more when Al's explaining his point or making his point, he's the more cerebral of the two of us. I'm the cut and dry, not gonna I don't have big words. I don't have I'm just gonna tell you how I feel and how it is. So when I every time I hear Al, you know, I know exactly where he's coming from. And I appreciate when I say he's more cerebral. I appreciate it because he breaks it down for those who aren't in the business that may you know, may be above it if I can say it that way. But yeah, I mean, and we've talked, we've we've touched on this, I'm gonna say a million times with exaggeration, how we've talked about how vps can't beat the boys and how Bookers shouldn't be your champion and all these other things. So everything that's being said, and then again you're putting now, you're putting Brian in a spot where he's got to defend himself, and then you're gonna put him in these matches and you know you're gonna talk about him in one way. But apparently he's he's part of this new uh you know, new regime. But you know, and I get, I get listen, I have no I have no argument against anything that Vince or al we're talking about that. I think Vince nailed it as far as perception, because we know perception is reality. That Tony gets no blame and it's all on everybody else, you know. And now and now if if to follow now Daniel Brian or Brian Danielson or you know, with the American dragons on everybody's tongue, and now you find out he's he's in charge of finding people on social media? What what are we doing? What what are we what message are we sending? And I asked you, though this isn't the only Okay, I'm gonna I'll bring up one and it's I'll bring up two, but I'll bring up one to let you comment. What about Dusty Rhodes booking? Was that a conflict of interest? A lot of people would say it was the downfall and it led to having to be purchased. But your thoughts, he's a talent, uh yeah, you know, to stay along those same lines, I think it was a conflict of interest that I think those who were part of that would tell you was a conflict. But business was good. I mean the other side of it. You didn't have all the all the bickering was behind the scenes. But how good was business? Well, ultimately, yeah, they had to sell it ultimately, I believe. And this is coming from Dusty. This is coming conversation with Dusty and Kevin Sullivan and Paul Hayman and everybody who's been in the booking seat, but has ultimately always fallen back to becoming one of the main characters or stars on that program, you know. And it's so I always you always try to keep that, Like Al said, sometimes they straddle that fence, but you have to keep your talent and your your office separate. And that's not what's happening here. I think we can go down because Ollie Anderson got the same thing. You know, even Bill Watson, you know there was there's always favor given to certain people, right, but then when you become one of the main attract and you're booking and all this other stuff there, that's where the animosity comes. Here's here's another one. I think this is more of what he's referencing when he's saying, you know the line, Jim Ross, he's a man, he's a executive, he is a television character. Also, is he directly competing in television time? Huh? That's I don't think because is this a good comparison with the line though that he's talking about. I don't think so, because Jr's role as a character wasn't commentating, so he wasn't I don't think he put himself or others in jeopardy of being favorite. Listen, there's everybody's gonna say this favoritism to one of the other. And we all know Stone Cold is Jr's guy, right, But I don't think that that interferes as much as your vps being your headliners and and they like that, Like you had Shane, right, Shane was always office, but Shane would come in for bits and pieces and then go back. But Shane was not there. It's almost like if you're in the ring, you're in the ring. You don't deal, you do you? You don't have control of the other stuff because that's that already happens between the boys. And when I say the boys, I'm talking about the women too, right, they're already afraid someone else is already plotting against them and everything else. But now you have office people. But it just it just was done wrong. You and I talked about this last week. It was done wrong. Whoever let that come out? First of all, the fact is being done is wrong. But whoever let it come out put all the heat on the dragon, you know what I mean. And it's just it just doesn't paint him in a good light because he has a reputation of respect and he has a reputation of respecting the guys the business and and doing what's right for business. But now they're putting a lot on his shoulders. Well where does he stand between the Bucks and Omega? Where where are all these things now? Because why would you have Brian Danielson as you're as part of your committee, but your vps aren't. Why so your vps don't get any more trouble. But now you've got Danielson being the heavy here and and that's why I agree with Vince, like Tony's got to step up. Stop stop, you know, he's just the inmates are running the asylum. What do you say to a guy though, like it's it's Brian Daniels to come forward and said, I want to be more involved Tony Kahn from what? From what? All things I've heard a lot of these guys is Brian Danielson's kind of said this is going to be I don't know, like what I'm not saying twenty twenty three, Let's just say year right as a full tide competitor, and he wants to get like he wants to start getting more involved in other things. You just don't think this is the thing I think. I think anytime you have him and him being Danison involved in the business is a positive. But I don't think letting him go out on his swan song of like you said, he's got one more year or he gave a date right of when he's going to retire in the ring, then that's when you announce and do the things you want to do. You don't do it beforehand, because now you've muddied the waters. Now you've muddied the waters. And I think this is a lot of what the negativity is coming out of ae W and it's coming out of the talent. It's not even coming out of you know, we can't say Uncle Dave. You know, Jeff and I have talked to a few people today. Inside we don't say that. What we talk about and kind of report is the talent's coming out on social media stating how unhappy they are with how they're booked and the way bookings, knowing why veterans. Now, the veterans aren't happy because they're not being used, out of side, out of mind, and the young uns aren't happy because they're not being used. But now you put Danielson in the middle. But here he is every week on TV and he's one of your top guys. Yeah, so it's it's a sticky, it's it's not necessary. I think he's going to be great in whatever role he he takes. But I'd say the same for Copeland, right, I think I think edge. I think Adam Copeland wants to continue in the business, and I think he knows he has a lot to contribute, the same as Christian Cage. But if you're the main event players and you're still calling the shots now you know, and you're starting to call the shots at the back, there's gonna be animosity. Yeah. Absolutely. How have you been enjoying the tournament so far? They're doing? I got that's good. It's not some good matches, it's had some good Here's here's the positive. And I don't mean here's the positive because you always talk about like I don't. I don't know. I feel like calling it the tournament. I'd feel better if once the tournament's over, we didn't have the same kind of show. But it's gonna be the same show, the same matches, the same style, you know what I mean. I feel like a tournament should be a little different. I will say this, after watching what I've watched, I am becoming not not for any bad reasons. I'm becoming a fan of Swerve strictly. I'm slow. I don't I'm not a guy who goes with the hype and jumps on the bandwagon. Everyody goes, oh, he's great. I want to like, what's he got to do that grabs me? That really makes me invested instead of just hearing what other people like about it. And I really like the match he had with Briscoe. Yes, I thought it was I thought it was a good match. I thought that was the story was being told throughout. Yes, And I feel like they still gave their niche crowd what they wanted, but they did more than that, you know, does that make sense? That makes perfect sense. So I don't mind the tournament. I will. I will piggyback off my my buddy, my pal, Bully Ray. And as you know, we talk about I listened to Busted Opened a lot because we're of the same mindset. But I will go with the tournament's no different because the rules don't apply in the tournament either, So I feel like I'd like to see the tournament be handled differently because of I think it's the same it's the same format as anything else. So I think a tournament should be special if that makes sense, you know, things like that. But well, I'm kind of interested in some of the matchups, but I feel like we've all seen some of these before, so it's nothing that's special. But I was really I was entertained and I was really invested in Strickland and Brisco and and I'm I'm slowly jumping on that Swerve Strickland bandwhack Swerve. Strickland is definitely one of the next main guys up and coming there. He's coming along. Yes, he's developing as he should. Yeah, he's coming along. And he's and he's not uh, he's not a he's not wet behind ears, he's not he's not green anymore. You know, he's been around a little bit, and he's got some miles on him now and and is you know, his bunk card's been punched a bunch of times. But now you can see his his maturity, ye one, who he is and what his character is. And I liked it a lot more without the old entourage and everything else. I feel like here's a guy I can go, Wow, I'm good. I really want to be invested in everything he does now. So it's cool to see a guy. But let's talk like he's he's come from both sides of the fence, right, He's he's been in both systems. He's been around and now he's getting a feel and now he's got the trust to be him and do his thing. And I think he's really good. I I agree. I've enjoyed the tournament, but I think here's the thing with it, and with Aw's approach, It's like, this is supposed to be sports based pro wrestling, right, So what is happening is because it's not quite as storyline driven, you're starting to see these competitive sports based matches, and a lot of them are. They become a little bit repetitive. They're the scene over time, and although they're always most of the time they're good. But that's what it comes across as, which I think is by design. But I and We've talked about this over and over again, but eventually you got to do a little bit more. But as far as the magic quality, this tournament's been great. I do have one major complaint, and this actually ties in with our friends at the All Elite What are the Elite cronies, Yeah, the Elite Open. My problem is every time I try recording it on YouTube TV, they overrun it and I can't watch the rest of it now and this and I have a clip and that's a long one. We'll go through what we can with it, okay, and this will be part of the enjoyment of live because there's no way this length of this will make it onto the actual podcast that comes out later, so yeah, make sure you're joining us live. But Dave Meltzer and Brian Alvarez Wrestling Observer got in argument this week about this. Brian Alvarez is very frustrated because he keeps missing the main event because it won't record it all, which is not the problem with NXT. We're all smack down. It's something about this with a W and they talk about it more in detail here, but I'm sharing it because I thought it was funny because I'm having these frustrations and then they are arguing on the air about this, and do I not degree with Brian Alvarez here, But Dave Meltzer is a very strong on his defense of everything a W always and I'm glad that the elite crony sent this over because it's the same problem that I'm experiencing. So let me pull it up here. Somebody in AW needs to contact YouTube TB and probably some other providers as well and either stick to the damn two hours or let them know when you're gonna do an overrun. Well, because second a week in a row, I did not see the end of the main event or here's the jail. But you know what Dave hold on. Yeh, NXT went fifteen sixteen minutes over, no problem. Yeah you know why zero problem. Yeah, because NXT has that's built into the show. No. No, their overrun is nine minutes. It's nine minutes every week. They go nine over every week. This week they went sixteen over and everything record. Okay, but but that means What that means is is that they scheduled a sixteen minute overrun. They knew days in advance this thing went down that it would be with AW. When they do these overruns, the overruns are are I don't say decided. They take place as the show is going on. Well that's not fine, because that's a problem. People are missing the end of the show. Well they did miss they did miss us in a row. Now, they did miss the end of uh what was it? The the Moxley and what Moxley Man? I missed it, Mark brisco Mann. Yes, yeah, yeah, they did missed. They did miss the last couple of minutes of that match. For that reason, I mean I could go say like, look, I mean this is what I do I do for every AW. I mean they're not going to do this on Friday, so being they don't tournament match on Friday, but they are going to do this on Saturday, and they are going to do this on Wednesday as long as this tournament goes on, because they don't want to do seven minute tournament matches or nine minute tournament matches. So what is what you need to do as long as the tournament score. I'm at the show, So you have twenty minutes for the main event. Well, they did this for four years. They entered the top of the hour for four years. Yeah, but so don't tell me they can't do it. Of course they of course they could. But you adjust on the fly and you cut segments. In this case, they're going to give that main event match. They're going with the plan for the main event match. So what you have to do is you've got to record the next show. You have to do it for the whole time. You record the next show. What's the next show? What's the movie gonna be next week? I don't know. I don't know either. On YouTube TV, you don't like record the time. I don't say record from ten to eleven. Doesn't do it that way. You have to choose the show that you want to record, Well, that means that every week I need to figure out what movie is going to be playing after Dynamite? Is it that home I do? That's not my job. It's my job and I've done it every week. Bro, I missed it. It's their job to make sure that the viewer can see the whole show. That's their job. Okay, can I tell you something? Yes, you're right and you're wrong. Okay, you're right in the sense that in the perfect world you're right. You know what, if again, you're not a sports fan and I am. When I would do a sport, you can the sport may go there for three hours, but all the time constantly if there is an you know, MMA, which is the one that I would do most basketball sometimes, Okay, when I do those, I always record the next show because you cannot. They're not going to end up time. Maybe they will, maybe they won't, but I'm not gonna go and get mad about it. It's like that is my job. When I'm watching a sports event that if that I have to take into account. Okay, well, this isn't a sports event. It's a two hour scripted professional wrestling show that for your exactly two hours. Okay, so I'm positive they can end on time or of course. But the point is the satay for fifteen minutes over like NXT does every week, and then go ahead and go over. Well, this plan in advance if you're gonna go nine minutes over for every tournament match, but they let them know that you're gonna go nine minutes over. They don't know. It's not the show is planned to go to it. No, what they don't they don't end on time. And the difference is is that they're not going to do Okay, here's a deal. No, hold on, hold on, hold on, no, what you're missing goes nine minutes over. They set it for nine minutes over every week because that's the plot. Only goes four minutes over. It doesn't matter to go the whole nine. They set a block there in extra nine minutes to make sure. Okay, well you can you can so trust me, AW can do this as well. This is this is not AW, this is the station. Okay. I'm just telling you that you have to review this as a sport, as a live sports event, and a live sports event. Whenever you're recording a live sports event, you have to record the next show. I'll go who's on first, what's on second? I don't know third base. He's going around in a circle. And now I'm now I'm frustrated for you, the viewer and the only cronies and the viewers who are are upset about this because you've got Meltzer trying to tell the world that they don't know how long the matches are gonna go. This fourth bill it makes run in the asylum. You're supposed to have a TV format, and because everybody can do what they want, they go over where, they go this, they go that. So now that people are getting robbed of the main event because naturally you gotta give the main event their full time, and now you guys that record it are screwed. And Meltzer saying, well, they don't know every week. That is the biggest cop out I've ever heard as it pertains to a TV wrestling program. Yeah, we'll get back to you, min that's gonna go over. Tell them it's over every week. Brian, you can complain all you want. You're just gonna keep missing the end of the show. I'll miss the another show. Good, then, don't complain about the I've been I'm telling you ahead of time what it is. Damn telling hands record. I can't make it record more time. It doesn't allow me to do that. For the next show. I can't either. I don't know what the next show is. It's a random movie every week. It's not that hard to find out. Go to the website and look at this schedule. They will just like I do. They will tell you the movie. It's not that hard, and I go and record that movie. And if I'm going if I forgot it to do this, it's my fault. It's not their fault because I know the score because it's the same thing. Like again, when I watch UFC or Bellatour and if the main event, if you know, if I missed the end of the main event because I forgot to record the next show, that is on me. That is not on them, because I know in the NBA, if it cuts me off with four minutes left in the fourth quarter of a close game, that's my fault. That's not their fault. And this is the state it is. You can say, oh shave, and you're right. You're right. It is their fault that they don't just add a ten minute buffer at the end every week. That's their fault because it's not the plan. It doesn't matter. Okay, and ten that's fine. They still have the buffer just in case. Okay, guess what n XT does it and why it is never a problem. Then why doesn't the NFL and b a NHL Because it's not a scrupid show and it could go a half hour, it could go an hour, it could go Still, don't do it. If you wouldn't it be wouldn't be in one of these games? Shouldn't They shouldn't they like tell the DVR to go forty five minutes longer so you never miss. They probably should. Okay, they don't. They don't do it. That's the rules, that's what they do. Well, you know what when we talked about this last week. We talked about this last week. No, no, no, no, hold on, hold on. You told me last week that that final quarter died? Am I wrong? Yes? Okay, it's gonna do that again this week. Yes. Are they happy with that or are they going to tell the fans it's their fault that they didn't record the next show. They're not going to say anything what they're telling me. But but you got to learn there is a big difference because very few people actually DVR their sports. Well, how about that, So people are dvring this show, so maybe they should make sure that they get it. But order doesn't die. But there are people who do. It's not that difficult. Well, j back ineficial up here in a minute. So as this conversation progresses, somebody in the chat, actually Jem sentence says, they do do that for sports, and they do so, I record pretty basketball, pacers basketball, and there is an overrun unless it's I have experienced baseball where it's got a bunch of different endings where it didn't get it all. Sure, but really it's not an issue with sports even but it's it's it's one of those things like in the NFL, if the game's in the overtime or there's another interesting game, they switch you over if the times ran out. But what he's saying, we're talking about a live sporting event and let's just let's just let's just imagine that the NFL, the NBA, and MLB are all on the up and up, and they're not scripted as well. See my sarcasm there. We Tony Kahan knows who likes to talk about his numbers and the ratings and all these things. Tony Kahn, this is who the this is. These are the bosses. He's made it clear. He's the head of creative, He's the boss. He's the guy Tony Kahan knows he has a two hour show. And what Meltzer's saying, the way I understand it is it's not Tony's fault and the station has obligations. It is your fault. Stop making every match go fourteen minutes. Stop having all these things that don't make any sense or mean anything, because now you're trying to see. This is the whole part of the inmates running the asylum thing in my opinion. But you have a station. I've worked on TBS and TNT for seven years. You had an overrun. They stayed with it. Now one time unless it was planned by creative to leave people hanging at the main event to come back the following week or the next night, or to buy a pay per view event. Did you ever leave a main event without finishing it? Not once it well, mine cut off after a supern It's what Meltzer is saying, from what I hear him saying, is it's not on AEW's fault. That's just the way it is. No, it is. It's a time show. I'm sorry that guy. And here's how it runs. Okay, here's let's pull the curt Hugh Morris is on with crash Holly. First, we have eight minutes, we went fifteen. We just stole seven minutes from the next match, or we stole a minute off the next seven matches, or we stole two minutes off of this match one minute. They have to figure it out, or they cut a whole match because of it, to make sure the main event has the time necessary to fulfill its commitment to its fan base and the television product. Is that your objective? Yeah, And so clearly he's saying it comes down to tough toenails. You missed it, figure out a way to to you know, the record another show after it. And to Alvareth's pointed, that's not his job. He's there to watch the show, and now you take it away from him. Well, then here's here's the other thing that's gonna happen. Other than your loyal fan base, You're gonna you're gonna impede on people wanting to be part of the product, because they're not gonna get their main events. They're not gonna get the things. I don't. YouTube, I don't, I don't. DV are a thing, never have, never will. So when it goes off, it goes off. And if I leave on the interest in or you took for me, or maybe waste two hours for no payoff, then you've lost me as a viewer. And while Dave says, well that's just you know, that's the way it is. You're gonna deal with it, Well, here's how you deal with that. Your ratings go down, the TV station sees the drop in the ratings, the TV sees dropping the viewership, the YouTube thing stops going blowing up, and all these other things. I just think that was a terrible answer for someone sound like he knows the ins and outs of everything, but to say you can't control that is an out and out false statement. Yeah. I think ultimately we'll go to it and finish it up, but we'll just move on right after he finishes. But uh, you got to make it easier for the people, I mean people to watch it. You want people to watch it, you want to back and be able to watch it. And there's a lot of people in the same area that we're in, right, we're into talking about this and covering the business and talking about these things. And it goes for the same as as Dutch Mantell goes for the same as Jim Cornett goes for the same as Al snow Vinceure, so up and down the line, all conin and glad it goes for everybody. So if you take that away from me, why am I burning my energy and waste my time on a product that you don't think it's necessary for me to watch the complete thing? And now I'm gonna do extra research. Well, now, if I'm gonna do extra I'm already taking out of the match and now I'm just gonna watch it so I can say something negative or positive about it. I just I just don't understand the theory of a man who's been around in most of the MMA, bellatour, you know, a UFC, I'm real sports. How he can say that they have no control over the time. That's absurd to me. And he knows better, so that that argument. It's kind of like all all viewers are are a bunch of dufices, and hey, deal with it. We'll finish it up. I mean, it's fine. If they want to have a low final overrun quarter every week, that's fine with me. Or they could just set it to go ten minutes over and not worry about it and then it goes short. It's not the plan. I mean, look, it's a perfect look if you can. Oh, by the way, this person says on YouTube TV sports recordings do have a thirty minute overrun built in, So they actually do do it for live sports, well, then they should have it here. Yes, exactly, good, go tell me, saying go tell YouTube TV. Oh my god, I'll email him right after the show. I always have to record the next show when it's any sport event that I won't see, and I don't complain about it. I just do it. Well, well, I'm gonna start cutting off the last five minutes of this show, and I'm gonna put it in a secret place, and I'm gonna make people learn how to find that last five seconds. It's on them, not on me. Yeah, that's what I'm gonna do. Ally, cronies, You're lucky Bill suffered through that for you. Yeah. I like how you in though he was gonna stop. Yeah, yeah, I you know, listen, that there's there's a legitimate like there's a concern, and right away the uncle Dave is defending that. But for him, like he says, I don't DVR or anything on YouTube. But that's what the conversation is. We're not talking about regular DVRs and we shouldn't. It doesn't matter, Like, why should I have to worry about what I'm recording after the schedule time? Let me watch the show in its entirety. And how you do that is either hold people accountable for their times and do a better job of creating and writing this show, or simply have the overrun built in. And he says, well, if you go short, there you go fight. No, there's there's a there's contingency plans. That's where your your your promos come in, and this is where your character development stuff comes in. And if you clearly understand what you're doing, in my opinion, then you have a contingency plan. So if something does go short, someone does get hurt, there's there's one or two or three backup matches on hold. There's one, two or three backup promos on hold. There's a video package on hold. There's something on hold that always covers your bases. We talked about this last week with Seeing Punk. I mean they've even made that work. Was that what people wanted to know? But they stuck to it and that's what they did. Yeah. With the with the ending of the show, that's that's I think that's a I think that's a terrible cop out to tell people to learn how to record the next thing. So all all you aw fans, you snap to it. Make sure you're joining the build amon experience live. One of the benefits is you've got to see Bill's reaction during that seven minute segment the whole time. You won't get experience that on the post production end. It'll be much shorter. But I do think it goes along with what we were saying though, with the matches and the planning and the way everything is done. Yeah, it's just listen, man, if if Moxley is your main event, then have consideration for it. And maybe I don't know, I don't know if there's you know, we going back to our conversation a couple of weeks back about Wrestler's Court, Who's who's leading by by design? Do you think do you think Edge and Christian gonna let people just constantly run over it and their stuff's gonna be missed. There's got to be a conversation. But this is not what we're hearing. We're hearing there's dissension and negativity and unhappiness and people are just doing what they're You know, if listen, if every night I could call a twenty minute match, I'd go twenty minutes, but some might you get three? So might you get five? So much you get seven? Live events is where you get most of your time. Yeah, so, but it's a TV product, yep. And if you keep burning, if you keep burning your loyal fan base, they're gonna go where other people are going and maybe they have. Yeah, all right, we will move on. This is our really, our last aw thing. This is not a video per se. This a screenshot I guess of what we're going to talk about. So I didn't know if you'd heard anything about Rick Flair on social media this week. This isn't. This isn't. An article from the Resturent Observer so titled Tony Kahn Ric Flair essentially paying us for his AW appearances. WU Energy is covering all of Flair's appearance fees. According to AW head Tony Kahn, the company isn't paying paying for Ric Flair's appearances and that he is essentially paying us. Talking to The New York Post about the Road Distincts retirement match at March's Revolution, Con was asked about Flair's inclusion as part of the Final Countdown. It first started when they were approached by Flair's Woo Energy drink company for a high paying sponsorship. Then Con said, we're not paying for Ric Flair. Ric Flair is essentially paying us. We're getting paid by Wu Energy for all of his appearances, so we're collecting revenue from them. He did not say how much revenue that was. Flair debuted on a late and took we shared this October edition of AW Dynamite as Colin special gift to Sting and later was announced as signing a multi year deal with the company, later revealed by Flair as being a two year deal with AW in conjunction with the Woo Energy drink being the official drink of AW. And I just lost the spot. But this sing last week and a tweet he said he would leave the company. This is he being Flair if he was embarrassing Kahn while not mentioning it. He did, Sorry, have you seen this tweet? Yeah, that I'm talking about here, So you know what I was talking about a lot of people listening to do probably I guess what it kind of came from, and I'll just sum it up instead of reading the rest of this article. A lot of the negativity Rick Flair was saying so getting so Rick Flair basically said, hey, I'm not here for here for the money, and I guess it comes out here that I guess aw is not straight up paying for the appearances. I'm here because I want to be alongside my buddy Sting And a lot of people were upset because of his comments made when he's in fighting. Every woman between the age of eight two and five five to his hotel room. Right, So what, here's here's what I got from this. I so we already know that people and by people, it could be one person, it could be one thousand people said that was inappropriate for Rick Flair to say that about it between eighteen and forty two come to my hotel room. Let me ask you this. First of all, Rick Flair has been saying that same thing for fifty years. Yep. Now, of all the things an aew fans gonna get offended by. Do you think that's it? That loyal crowd loves that stuff, eats it up. That's just my opinion. So I get where he says, I'll walk away right, And let's let's face it, there's a little bit more publicity and now we're talking about the champ once again. All all respect to to the nature. Now, this thing that Tony Kahm put out, I would like to think he was trying to say, Rick Flair is so important and the thing with his energy drink company is so huge. It's like, we don't even feel like we're paying him. He's paying us. We're benefiting from Flair's physical appearance, you know what I mean. That's I first readit. I'm like, maybe he just said it wrong or was taken out of context where he was trying to say, we're the ones benefiting from Flair. We're not paying him. He's paying us, meaning paying it forward with his you know, just with these years of experiences, leadership, the things he can do, and and you know, the eyes he puts on the product. And then you read the rest of it, how the whole deal is wo Energy pays for Flair to try travel puts them up all these things in face Flare to do that. So am I led to believe that if WU Energy and Ahn you no longer partner, would no longer see Rick Flair because Tony Khan I aim to be there? Are you telling me that Tony Khan took Rick Flair because someone else agreed to pay all his fees and this is Tony back on social media? Really? Yeah? To your point, how is this? Like? Where are we even I guess I so what you're saying, why are we even talking about this? How did this get out? Yeah? Why? Why? And why in the middle of a match? Am I seeing WU Energy drinks with Flair on the on the on the boards and all that stuff? So why? But why is it a thing? Yeah? Why does that have to be a thing. It's like they they continue to create their own dirty laundry and and continue to create their own negativity. Yeah, you know you brought up a good point because they did just blake. I don't it must have just missed the hitting the button in time, because Edge every every go f yourself just went out there clear as day. It's like it's like the most unprofessional professionally run system, and it's not a knock and again it's not a knock on on the talent. It's it's a knock on how it's being done. And if you're gonna put these people in place, and if they're in charge of this company, they gotta know more about what they're doing. And you've got to wonder how how much longer TBS and t n T you're gonna put up with it. I agree, let's move on to something more positive, shall we. This will be a nice pick pickup for you. The Undertaker has the uh oh Man. I don't want to I don't want to put your he has a show that he's doing. The dead Man is doing the I don to make sure it butchered. It's six feet under, I believe. I just don't want to butcher wrong. Yep, yep, that's exactly six feet under. With Mark Alloway, he was asked a really it was like an obvious answer to me the question, but I thought it was a good question. It sparked a good conversation and it's going to spark a couple of videos here for us to respond on it. I think this will be a good pickup for you good, pick me up. I guess you could say, what do you think? Are you ready for that? I'm ready? Dustin Rhodes slash gold Dust, that character or whatever it may be. Does he Do you feel like he has got a resume to be in the Hall of Fame? Absolutely? Really? Oh yeah, okay, yeah, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, no. This is a semantics thing at this point. Yeah. I would imagine at some point down the road roads get that look and see how I did that. Oh yeah, boy, I'm clever. I'm clever today. I think his resume is his Hall of Fame worthy. Obviously we know the one stickler right now. Yeah, And I think at some point that goes away and then I couldn't see too much time probably going by that he wouldn't he wouldn't be inducted. And I think that was something that was unique about him as well. I mean, he cut some phenomenal promos, he did, he embraced that character, he made it his own. You know, a lot of people talk about me and my character and making it my own, but I mean he did that with gold Dust and not a lot of people well so, and you know, Dustin come from that traditional wrestling style too with his dad, you know, Dusty. But to go so far and another direct than than than Dusty or what Dustin had done up to that point. I mean, that's that's that's a big roll of ice. You're looking for a job and Thence calls you. You tell, yeah, hell yeah, I can do that. You know. But there's some people that that that that happens to and they get characters, they get gimmicks whatever you will call it, and you can tell they don't they don't feel it. They don't. They half heartedly go through it and the next thing, you know, their future endeavored right, they're looking for another job. Gold Dust embraced it. He made it his own and he was great with it. I mean, he just he did some really funny stuff. I'm asked you's the question, you think Dustin Rhodes gold Dust should be in the Hall of Fame? Yeah? One day, yeah, I think. I don't think one day, ten do ten years down the road? I think. I mean I wish, I wish the Hall of Fame thing wasn't so territorial. Yeah, And you can you can only get in if you're if you're part of the WWE. Because we've seen people that have never wrestled in the ww become part of the Hall of Fame, yep. But his his legacy and his body of work to me, demands that he's in the Hall of Fame. So it's just, you know, it's like Mark said, it's just a question of when and when everybody gets past the you know, the nonsense and and stuff like that. But listen, there's there's never going to be an argument for me on that. There's there's an argument of why he's not already in there, But the answer is absolutely one hundred and fifty yes. Yeah, like, yeah, make sure you check out The Undertaker's show too. That that's good stuff. Cool to see him in that light. You know, you avoided that particularly character for so long, so now we're getting a lot of that coming out. Yeah, he actually came by Indianapolis recently and I should have went. And that's the that's the guy, respectfully, that's that's you know, Mark Calloy, that's the guy we know in the back. That's the you know, I've had the honor of playing dominoes for years at that table and sitting and picking his brain and actually working with him on the live events and the TVs. And you know things like that, and when you when when you have a bunch of men breaking down that way and talk to each other that way, it really I think it's very helpful for people to see who they really are. And now they get to see that with with Taker, you know. But I was just I was just into because you know, there's certain guys that you're drawn to and you can listen to, and Takers one of those guys. So I was actually I found myself like I was sitting in the locker room again listening to him, you know, dropped knowledge that listen, Dustin Rhodes, gold Dust, you call him whatever you want. He should he should be a Hall of Famer. Yeah, I think what he's also referencing the fact that he's an a W right now might be Yeah, And you know he's trying to you know, he does the right way and says, well, you know there's a hurdle, Yeah, there's a hurdle. It's the same hurdle they've been talking to Jericho about this week, Right, Jericho, you're ever gonna go to You're ever gonna go win. Obviously, if their concern was going into the w W Hall of Fame, they never would have left. Right, If that's the concern, they never would have left. We're talking about it. We're talking about two two grown ass men that are professionals and extremely great at what they do, and that's what they continue to do. So the Hall of Fame thing, while it's a nice notch in the belt, it doesn't define who people are. But if there's someone and there's a you listen, there's a there's a there's a list where you can go down to people that I think deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. So listen, if Drew carries into the Hall of Fame, there's no reason that gold does. Watching this video made me realize another, Well, go in another video here something else I had watched from Stevie Richards. Recently, he did a breakdown on gold Dust. It makes you go to Stevie Richards. Yeah, YouTube and check it out. I'll share it with you, Bill we If Dustin is underrated, you might think underutilized, which really, Dustin should have been a world champion multiple times over. He had one of the most controversial, if not the most controversial character in gold Dust when it first debuted in the WWF. Before it was WWE. So, but we're going to talk about more technical stuff with Dustin because Dustin has not only evolved and reinvented himself, but he's ad it moves as he's become older. He's fifty four years old at the time of this recording. He started wrestling in nineteen eighty eight in Florida. But he's actually he's always been one of the greatest workers in my opinion, but he keeps getting better and he keeps doing more impressive and almost dangerous moves. So we're gonna go through all that. Right here, we have a compilation. Who's that guy who's about the whip off the roofs? Right there? Let's take a look at this. This is the the butt Bumper. I don't know exactly what the names called, and they've taken a bunch of times, but this is one move here that was within the gold Dust character or a gimmick when he was controversial as a heel and then continued as a babyface and kind of promoted it in a match it in ways that a baby face would. It was really really impressive. So let's just take a look right here. And the thing is you'll see a flash there's actually a camera flash which almost blinded me in the match. That's why I left it in there. But the camera cut is great and all it is. Really it's no different than a shoulder block, except he's using but which, by the way, is Dustin has aged. He's a gotten in better shape. When he first debuted his gold Dust, he was severely overweighted, but at least compared to what he is now. Now he shred it, and here he got himself an incredible shape. I don't know his work ethic and what he does. He just continues to work even harder as he gets older, and he continues to work even harder in the ring. And that's I'm gonna stop talking, because I love Dustin as a talent and even as a person, even more so. Here he is against Matt Hardy and right righty to here. Look at the height on that look. I mean, that might be the found out right there, but look at the height. Look at his feet, Look at his knee. He literally is doing a plyo jump in the air, like a plio box jump. Look at the height. He's literally just like the La Knight elbow. He's all the way up here at the top rope. His knees are between the second and the top rope. That is crazy, the athleticism there, and of course you got to give props the cameraman and the director for the cut on the action. By the way, there's so many moves that Dustin does currently on top of this, like I said, he keeps adding moves to his ripertoire. We can't cover everything in there, so we might have to do a part two about just how good of a technical worker that Dustin Roads is. Let's see, it's just crazy they little and of course that's just a small clip of it. Yeah, so if you want to see the restiming, should get a Steve Richards you two page. But he breaks down several moves and how he's evolved over time. Yeah, I think, uh, like I said, you're not. There's no art, I have no counter point, I have no no uh debate over it. But it does show you across the border his coworkers what they think of him. Look, I think Randy Orton has one of the best power slams of the business. But if you look at Randy Orton, Randy Orton spent time watching Dustin Road throw that power slid oh yeah, like big big men. We threw a power slam. Dustin's was special and now Randy's is. You know, it's it's just so pretty to watch. And I think in that video he covers that and how safe it is. Yeah, and that's it. It's pretty to watch. It's safe. And that's Dustin's always been that way. He never did something. Uh and here's the here's always one of the knocks that was on Dustin. He never did it enough for himself. He was always always concerned about the match, his opponent, the story, things like that. He never broke away from what we what we wanted to do, what we were trained to do, what we did as professionals. And that was and when I say knock, it wasn't a bad thing. People went, Man, if he could have just been more selfish and thought about himself, that's not who he is. That's not where he came from, it's not how he learned and all those things. Dustin Rohades belongs in the Hall of Fame, end of discussion. Whether you want to put him as dust and Rhades, whether you want to put him in is as gold Dust, whatever. But the character gold Dust did more in the attitude error for this business than a lot of other characters and a lot of other personalities. I agree. It's a huge fan. Yeah, just comedic genius as well. I mean, and he's so and that's so opposite him because you know, he likes me very you know, he's low key. He's very funny, but he's low key. It's into that and the that come on, it's it's I love. I love like when I say, going down the rabbit hole, I find something or someone sends me something on TikTok and it has dusted in it has gold dust in it. And then the next twenty two videos or gold dust and I find myself watching him and laughing the same way I did. How entertaining he was was just and he made everybody else entertaining. He made Booker more entertaining, He made The Rock more entertaining, you know. So yeah, he had often you'd have like the Rock and several people on those permis with him, and he would be the one that ed up I mean everybody. Yeah, so uh yeah, hats off, hats off to take her, Hats off to my my man Stevie Richards and anybody who sings gold dust praises because he deserves them. And that's he he knows. Here's the thing. He knows what he's done and what he continues to do. And and I don't think any of us need that. Some strive for that, Some people have to have that. I don't think Dustin is one of them. But he's sure as fire deserves to be in the Hall of Fame as gold dust. All right, pal, we're gonna move on to his sports ills. We're gonna and okay, yeah, this is a SI article. Vince mc man has no intention on leaving WWE. While the parameters of his role have changed, Vince stillwelds considerable power within the company. Vince McMahon needed to be liquid as the executive chairman of TKO Holding Groups, which is Endeavor's own banner, which is combined to own UFC. Of course, i've talked about McMahon headlines last month. You may have mentioned it on this show, and I don't remember. He was selling seventy million in TKO stock. Eight point four million shares represented nearly twenty five percent of his holdings of the company. The sale was disclosed in a securities filing last month, and it merely raised questions over McMahon's long term future in the company. Sources within WW, however, shared that McMahon has no plans to leave the company, though the reasons were undisclosed. Sports Illustrated learned that McMahon needed to have the money liquid, which is why he sold such a hefty portion of his stock. Multiple sources have indicated that McMahon has no plans stop working for the company, even though his role has shifted away from the creative which is overseen by Paul Triple h will say there is no doubt that McMahon still has great power in the company. The focus for McMahon and handling the assignments assigned to him by Endeavor of course CEO of the Endeavor CEO, should I say Dana White, who is doing a similar thing for UFC. So the point of this is saying he's not going anywhere pal So a lot of people saw that and they thought, oh, they're running fisific man out the door, because all these other things we hear doesn't seem like it's going on anywhere. Bill. Take take the merger out, take the buy out out of the way, take out the controversial issues, personal issues from Bibbs, and you have heard and it was embedded in your memory and in your your mainframe. Vince is never leaving the WWE. So and so i'll you know, you know me, I'll play Devil's advocate. Who gained this report? You know? Is it someone from the WWE or is it someone from TKO? Or is it someone from or is it Vince himself doing an interview? Whoever they wanted it to be Bill, And but that's designed by design. We know we as WWF WWF WWF WWE, TKO. Now, whatever it is, we know as lifers because we've heard it since day one we were employed and before them. Vince is never leaving the company. And and this is still a family I still believe it's a family business. It's it's always going to be the McMahon's baby. And so as long as there's a w W, there's gonna be a Vince McMahon. I don't think you're ever gonna hear what we heard again, like he was ousted and off the board and all these other things. And while he's selling these things, I think he's gonna be allowed to slowly drift into the good night. And but he'll always be. I think he's always gonna be aligned with the WWE. So I think the article is is correct, and at the same time, I think it's misleading because to your point, a lot of people go, oh, he's still in charge of things and all this, but that's where that's where be all the smart fans go to and everybody else. The cut and dry is, Vince is always going to be part of the w W, just like I mean, they bought uh ECW, but Police's always gonna be the duo and all ECW, Eric Bischoff is always gonna be the end all do all of WCW. Vince bought them all, but Eric's aligned with w CW, just like Paul's live with e c W, and Vince is always gonna be aligned with WW. You're gad about that, Pale. I think that, Pal, Yeah, I mean I really don't think it ever wants to get into the weeds like like that. I really do think they're gonna stay true, and they haven't. I mean they've been, they've been with UFC, they've had purchased UFC and watching that product it's been the same way. They're not but the to say the same thing that Dana White's doing the same thing. Though Dana White's in front of everyone, he's he's the voice of UFC and he addresses everything, and we're not good that We're not gonna see that from Vince anyone. He doesn't need to either, right. This kind of segues into the next discussion here, it's saying backstage report on Dow's hopes for a new Raw TV deally been talking about this. Paul Okay, I just call him Triple h Yeah, and Nick conn were reportedly in Los Angeles earlier this week to negotiate a new TV rights deal for WW Raw on Monday nights. The longtime flagship show is in this last remaining season of the show. The future is not quite yet determined, so we know that SmackDown moved to the USA Network in nxts moving to the CW next year. These are all twenty twenty four moves. By the way, Dave Melcher had actually talked about this is wrestling in artigle, but everything that's not like ESPN or SI or something. They're all going to reference to the Wrestling Observer. But anyways, WW hopes to secure a deal worth four hundred million a year for the show. It's kind of a lot of people that are analyzing it with knowledge and then the business aspect behind it are think it's probably closer to three hundred and eighty seven million. Most of negotiation. Per it seems like a lot of this is coming back to Disney in particular. FX had been on the network as far as the lead. Obviously, this has been talked with Netflix USA. I think Get USA's out of the picture. Why you may ask, this's because they've already paid for SmackDown and that would be quite the undertaking financially for them. Warner Brothers Discovery, Amazon Prime all in the running. Warner Brothers Discovery would be a significant move with potential ramifications and the wrestling landscape were referencing aw of course, because they're already on there. Meltzer previously noted that Nick Con had approached Warner Brothers Discovery in October with a pitch that had been rejected, But those in Warner Brothers Discovery have also privately communicated that there had been no truth in the rumoids of raw on either TBS or TNT. The internet perception at b was that WBD Warner Bley Discovery was always going to be a long shot due to a w but any case, most are said negotiations are close to being finalized for an estimated value of a round three hunderity seven million. That's obviously why Paul Triple H missed the show. Uh, I guess what. We'll just segue out of it a little bit. What do you think is gonna happen? Bill? I think I think for the fans it's gonna be weird. I think that's the biggest thing. It's been on USA for so long. And if I'm not mistaken, this also talks of it not being on Monday Night. Is that right? Those have been thrown out there. Yeah. No, I don't see the benefit of that at all. And I yeah, I don't see it either. But I think, you know, here's the thing, and when you mentioned one, how what terrible analogy can I get? Okay, I like this girl, but I also gotta let her know I don't just like her. Other people like me. So now we name all the TV stations in the big people and they're all interested in all these things. That's probably down to one or two now. But I think the biggest concern would be for the people that are die hard, not just wrestling fans ww WWE fans. Is that not losing that Monday night slot? Yeah. I don't think it matters what station they go to. I think it's just going to be that that personal inconvenience of Steady hitting the USA button all the time. You gotta, you know, make sure you're you start to know what other channel it's on. Listen, you're talking about four hundred million dollars and you're talking about what what kind of front on your day twenty five years? Uh? Yeah, well they did have a break, but yeah, yeah, all in all, yeah, more than that. Yeah, so you're talking about the longest running episodic television show of all time. Yep, wherever it goes, it's going to remain the longest running episodic television show. So this is happening. I think War and it was weird, but yeah, and it's you know, it's it's weird and it will be weird because this is like the main brand, this is this is the flagship. And but don't you believe for one minute they're not gonna have a deal and it's gonna be beneficial and it's gonna be shortly remembered that they were in USA, because whatever they do, it's gonna be big. Uh. I think production is gonna change because that's just how w W runs it. They're not just gonna switch stations, they're the production is gonna change. Things are gonna constantly evolve. So I think we as we as fans will benefit from it. It's just getting used to, you know, wherever it's gonna be. Yeah, I think be weird FX seems to be what everybody's talking about. I think it would be different. It just makes me wonder though, why NBC didn't and maybe the BB has the vision like and never has a different vision. Yeah, No, it makes you wonder why they wouldn't fork out a little bit more for money night were all, you know, or or maybe they maybe you know, because we don't know what the UFC part of it is anymore either, so maybe part of what what they were asking for is UFC getting some airtime or things like that. So if you're, if you're, if you're, you've merged and this is one big conglomerate, you want to be where both products can be seen. So I think it's I think we can and I also think there's another wwea style Network down the road with TKO yep on that front. Oh what was the date still? I think was it till twenty twenty six or through twenty twenty six or NBC Peacock has that. Yeah, though, no matter what happens, where it goes, at least for the time being through a large portion of this deal, the pay per views, the library and all that is going to be with NBC. Kind of how that lined out? Isn't it lined up? Isn't it where it is? It is? Uh weird, But maybe NBC figures that's where they're gonna make their money with it, and they can they can afford to move on past it. So maybe eventually those will kind of group together via package and that'll be worth a hell of a lot, even where oh my gosh, I think Peacock paid a billion dollars for that jeez when it happens, So you can only imagine the value of what they're going to be able to do once they get that. I mean, it's gonna be huge, talking multi billion a year. It's already uh, I mean, excuse me, reaching about a billion a year. That's just crazy. But yeah, I don't I don't know, man, there's a lot to uh think about there and unpack with that, but yeah, they're all things indicating we're going to know very soon. They're not rushing it, but we're going to know very soon. I think we probably learned more about it Mania time. That's when all the biggest parts of the the year are and I think that's there. That's the fiscal year is Mania, right, it goes the Mania the Mania, not January to January. So I think we'll hear a lot more going into that Mania week about where they're gonna be moving to Bob Orton's cast once in anile. How much longer do you think why t J will wrestle? How much longer do you think you can keep doing much this? You know, it's funny when people ask me that, because I never think about stuff like that. You know, I told you earlier kind of my criteria for Chris Jericho and how how I would want to continue and why I would want to continue and like you know, like I said, still able to have the best match in any given night and still contributing and and helping the company and helping grow whatever company with and helping him grow the careers of other guys, younger guys. So I don't know, man, like I feel great. I mean, I think when I got into the twenty and tens, I started feeling really shady. And that's when yoga came up. That helped me a lot. Ddp W Yoga, Yeah, helped me so much. And in the two twenty twenties I lost a lot of weight that kind of gave me more momentum. I lost about thirty pounds a couple of years ago. So I just you know, I don't really lift weights anymore. I just do kickboxing and bike riding because weights started to bother me. And like, why am I sitting here doing three sets of eight when I can barely get it up with my shoulders are fucked or whatever it is. So let's just not do that. There's other ways to stay in shape. So I kind of want. Like I talked about reinventing myself in the ring, it's also reinventing myself outside of the ring as well. Aw started, there's no house shows, so there's a limited schedule, you know what I mean. I mean, I think I've had twenty six matches this year, which is probably a little bit more than usual. I think I'm twenty twenty two, twenty six, but fuck, wwe do You're doing four days a week, fifty weeks a year. You're doing two hundred matches a year. I couldn't do that now, nor what I want to. So I think as long as they continue to keep going where they're going, there's really no end in sight. I mean, look at Sting, you know, he's kind of the the watermark of being sixty four and still being awesome and the seriously, you know, I don't know if I'll be doing when I'm sixty four, but I'm fifty three now and I'm still having a great time and feel great and think I'm doing some pretty good work. Did you ever think you'd be thirty plus years in when you started now? I remember thinking, I remember telling Lance that, like, I'll probably quit the one I'm twenty nine. You know, when I'm thirty, I'll go do something else, you know, which is funny because you think about that. I remember seeing an interview with Mick Jagger who's like, yeah, you know, we'll probably do this into our thirties, like in nineteen sixty three, and like in your thirties off, that'll never happen, and here they are. And that's another thing. You look at the Stones at eighty still the biggest band in the world. And you know, their tickets went on Soday and they added like five more stadium shows. Why because they sold out all the other stadiums. Like, those guys are inspirations, so that you know, Sting is an inspiration. That's actually really good. This is that's Chris dan in Fleet show, Pal of Mine. I've been on my other podcast stuff. It's a good episode and you actually touch up on it earlier with the Hall of Fame thing that's also discussed in that episode. Yeah, yeah, I mean Chris is a not only not only a friend, a colleague. But there's no reason, like he said, he's contributing. He's enjoying his schedule. It gives him time to continue to do his other passionate things. He's you know that he makes a great living at you know, so I could see him just going. But I think we all had those moments like he said, oh when I'm thirty, I'm done. And because no one thinks about thirty years, thirty five years, it's unheard of anymore. You know, most people now, these these young and and stuff. I've heard people say, I'm just coming and making up money to buy a house and I'm out, or I'm coming in till I can get a movie thing and I'm out. You know, so five ten years if you're lucky at doing what you want to do and making money at it. But listen at fifty three, I you know, could I can legitimately see him at sixty three having the same conversation. And I could see him at fifty four going I'm good. Now I'm done. You know, it's like he said, he's still having fun and as all as he figures he's contributing, that's what it's about. You didn't hear him one save money. You didn't hear him one say contract years. You did hear him he said once I can't contribute, or as long as I can help people and do the thing, then that's that's you. And I talk about this all. Why can't it just be like that? Why can't it just you enjoy it? Great? You don't enjoy it, great, you're gone and we talk about something else. But like I like watching Jericho is becoming. He was always very honest, but now he just speaks his mind. The way he wants to say instead of trying to say it to make other people happy about it, and I always appreciate. I think one cool thing about Chris Jerich also is he's been able to accomplish a lot of other things that he's doing and wants to do also throughout this spectacular wrestling career, which I know he said he didn't know if he'd even want to be in the Hall of Fame, that he'll be in the Hall of Fame with w one day. But to his point, like after a while, as young as we all back then, everybody called it the Fed. Right back in the eighties before you were born, we called it the Fed and you drove past it on ninety five and you saw that, and I'm gonna work there and I'm gonna become a Hall of Famer. And until you're in the business realizing what you're doing and and you know, having the career you want hopefully, and I'm knocking wood that everybody has the career they want to have and they're happy with how it ends or you know, is continuing. But I don't think a guy like Chris Jerkt, I don't think a guy like gold Dust let's that define who they are. And so if he gets there, like he said, if he gets there, he gets there. But it's not something he's holding on too. And clearly it's not something he's working towards making happen, because in order to make that happen, you gotta be over here. Cool episode. He talks about his relationship with Vince Tony, how he's reinvented himself. Just a lot of good stuff. We could talk all day about and we will have it. We will want to do a deep he has a really good source of knowledge. He's he's one of those guys that has learned as much about the business as being in the business. And we'll have like I said, we'll do a deep die one day on we could talk about that. That could be a twenty parter. I'm the only guy who calls him Chubby. I love talking about Chubby. Vince wick Man's mustache and you know he wasn't responsible for the hits wick Man stuff. For some reason, physick Man's Mustache doesn't talk about Vitch wick Man very much. He did ask the what and then I'll follow it up with a video here. What does Bill think about shot pudding? Because he was talking about this big news coming out of the shot pudding world. Okay, elliot, did you see this, sad jay I did see this. This is awesome. So shotput is something you got to be like ridiculously explosive, yes, right, because you've got to be able to move a rock that is a credibly heavy a further distance in everybody else. In doing so, you're building up a momentum. Obviously they're a little spinner any but then you've got to be able to time it all up. So your timing has to be perfect, your explosion has to be phenomenal, and your technique has to be no wasted movement. So it's really a test of a lot of things in a short burst where there's no professional like you're not gonna get No. There is Olympics though, yeah, hell yeah. The daughter of brophlies there. One of the greatest athletes to ever be put on this particular earth, just Brook Colorader's state shot put record. Look, wait to go, Maya, Waity to go Maya. Now source sus have told me that Maya is now two hundred and twenty four pounds of all muscles ready to throw a rock for the United States of America when her time comes and beat the hell out of everybody else. This is a record setting toss hawk and obviously she's jacked up. But I'm happy to know that Maya Lesler's exists. Yes, okay, I'm happy to know that the United States has that, and everybody else does it. Shout out to us, Shout out to Maya and shout out to shot putting showcasing some true beast. Oh yeah, you know what I mean, man mcafeet. Did he shout out to us? Yeah? He can. You know. Pat's really good at building up any anything he talks about. He has such a delivery to it. We watched this last night here at the house, and the first thing Lacy, my wife said to me, said, can you believe she's in college? That's you know, that's the first thing. Do you remember do you remember saying her, Well, that means we're all old now because she's in college. And and here's me right going to the athletic part of it. I'm going because I threw the shot put in high school, and up until this video, I thought I was pretty good because I did the skip right. There's two forms to do it. When I was watching her spin. When I was watching Maya spin, i'ment, holy crap, you knew where this thing was gonna go. And if I'm correct, she not only broke the state record, the Colorado state record, it's men and women. She broke the record. It's not a woman's record. She broke the record. If I'm if I understand it right, and if that's the case, if I'm wrong, please let us know. Maybe it's the woman's record in the shot put. But if I understood the one news report, she broke the record, that's incredible. So I'm excited. I'm hey, I'm excited for for for my to see her in the Olympics. That would be freaking awesome because because it's it's there's another there's another branch in the Brocklesner story. Man. You know, I bet if she say the Brocklesser there, they're like, dang it, why did this go so viral? Right? Didn't want the didn't want the uh press or the exposure and hurt. Listen, I've said it before. Her dad is super sick, superhuman strong like all the members. All the old videos of him throwing hay bales and all that stuff that was for real, that's just the daily work. I'm excited for her. Congratulations to to Maya, and I really hope we see her in the UH Olympics. Yeah, Chad, Chad Michael, my brother. Yeah, the Skip method, old school, this this new spinning thing. These these these kids are unbelievable athletes. Of course, Chad Michael would be a shock. Yeah, Chad Michael, the Chad Michael. Well, Bill, we are coming to a close here, and we will do so as we normally do by talking this day. On this day, pro wrestling history saw the things that you ready to go into this ready, all right? So the first one here, this was on December first, seem to get to some comments here. This was on December first, in nineteen ninety eight, at a Monday night raw taping. They're taping it then after Stone Cold, Steve, Austa and Mankind had defeated the Undertaker, and the Rock Undertaker raised Austin up on this cross. It was. It wasn't a cross though, if you remember, it was his symbol, right, it was his symbol, but for all purposes of what it actually visually appeared to be, it was like crucified. It was. Well, we will we'll share this one with you. Now, it's gonna be controlled any Yeah, what's he doing now? I don't know, but Austin is still not over the concussion that you got from that shovel. What the world through it? Wait? Wait a minute. Tied into that symbol, I did think I'll get you as a picture over stone coach, Steve Austin to that Undertaker's symbol. It's helpless against Undertaker's ministry. Lucky. I've never seen anything like this in my life. Like look at that. Oh god, it's like you feel the power of the Undertaker. Austin, I've taken you my body and soul, the only thing left. It used to bury you alive. It was a symbol, Bill, It was a symbol. Yeah, well that's you know, listen, that's the truth of the argument, right, It was the it was the symbol, but you and I both know exactly what it was. He was. He hung alone across and uh, you could never get away with that. Now we always say that, could you do that today? Yeah? No, you'd never you'd never get away with that now, and uh, the language and everything else, But how awesome was that time in wrestling? Yeah? You never you literally never knew what was going to happen. Yeah, you're really how awesome? And then like to creatively keep doing that and having these these talent and these characters continue the story. What a great time in wrestling. We'll get to it one day, do you But do you remember who was behind it all along? It was me, Austin, It was me all along. We'll get to that one day, and I can't wait. Okay, let's go on to the second here. So last week we talked about a Sting debut in ww yep Ravers series, So the second was different bill. This was AW presented an episode of Dynamite from Daly's Place in Jacksonville, Florida, where wrestling and nikon Steing. He made his AW debut by confronting Arn Anderson, Cody Rhodes, Dustin Rhodes, and Darby Allen. It was Sting's first appearance on TNT in almost twenty years, since he had wrestled Ric Flair on the final episode of Monday Night Troe Monday Night TROW on March two thousand and one. So here it was his AW debut. On Sober second, twenty the FTW Championship in hand and Hives defend Lon Taylor TV. He froks down. Oh my god. Six two thousand and one, The last match Joe Ta Tina Sting, Peting, Rip Flayer. I'm now the Stinger is here. Ho hey w he stepped to the rings totally. And these two Rip never been great friends Cody other than his daddy, who was his favorite wrestler growing up. He's they're looking at each other hind eye right now. Oh he might have been a little Stinger once upon a time. Seeing this than much. If you don't have you, Tony, that's the amazing moment. We don't know where, we don't know where, we don't know why, we don't know what's next. It was uh three years ago now, yes, yeah, little yeah now but yeah yeah, really didn't do any It's like I don't really know, like he date like see a punk came back and you like really didn't need to know what he was gonna do right then, right, well, you really didn't know what's going on with Sting when he came out. Then the fakes know in Florida that was cool. Uh though it was gonna be glacier jumping in from the back. You didn't know though, like, didn't even say it. We don't know why, we don't know how, we don't know what's next. But yeah, he ended up confronting all the people he uh, I guess confronting is a weird word, but you can confront people positively too, I guyet, but those are the guys he's been around. Yep. It's cool that he got to come back for another run. But anyways, which one did you like? There was? That was a really strong night for me? It was cool. I remember watching it live. It was actually really cool that night. They got to the Daily's place and it was kind of a cooler environment than watching the performance Center. Yes, obviously later on they brought in a bunch of extra stuff and all that. I mean they did. But which one did you like more? His WW one or his AW one? The President like the old. I personally like the one because I had a storyline behind it ended up. Yeah, I liked the WWE one because I thought it was going to boy really go somewhere. But I like the AEW one for the fact that Steve is out there doing his thing, you know what I mean. So it was cool. It wasn't expected, you like, it wasn't expected, so to see ce Sting come out, that was cool. I think the bigger impactful one was the ww neither one. We were hundre percent. I was sure he'd be there that night, So I think they both were pretty pretty cool. We'll move on to the fourth here. So last week we showed a clip where where we and there was there was a couple of kiss asses into this, but there was a club that had been formed, the physic Many Kiss of My Ass Club Jr. Was forced to join it. Now, jumping ahead to December four, two thousand and one, the physic Man Kiss of My Ass Club is unofficially closed when McMahon is forced by the Rock to kiss the ass of a certain individual. Now, this is gonna be good. It's all that's right with the world. This is too good for McMahon told you you'd like to kiss this sass that I go on some chestick man, move it up. Don't kiss that? Ah yeah, French kiss it? WHOA What in the blue hell do you think you're doing? You sick freak? What? The Rox has got another plan. It's not that ash you're gonna kiss. There is one ass that the Rock has chosen especially for you. What oh no, God, oh God. Look at the Fisher cache. Look at the sols of the blues, four of the chips hanging everywhere. He's gonna lose us lunch, breakfast and dinner. Look at wait Ahead lighting up. Don't he the beg it up? He own this comany looks less? God, there is another sinness on behalf hold the millions a bensric man cuss your rass club is officially close, missing man? Hello, what gold? I remember watching that when it happened. Well, I take back everything in the ring was placed second to j R. There was so much more JR stuff. I couldn't have it in their team. Yeah, he was saying like he was hoping that even had to kiss his ass. There was a whole Yeah that the club was a What did you think about the mystic many Kiss My Ass Club? Anyway? I thought it was great. I thought, like you, I'm a big you know, I like the visuals and Vince always had the faces and and he liked the visuals well you know what I mean. Like the express I told you Alis though was the cerebral one, but I I liked it. I thought it was a good storyline because it fit the end result always paid off where they got to come up and on Vince's uh schemes. But I thought it was really well. So this is the one that Eric The visit may Kiss My Ass club was the one that Eric Bischoff tweeted out today. But before we get into that quite because it's going to relate to this and the way people have responded to him about this next one. This took place on the fifth of December in two thousand and five. Eric Bischoff's reign as general manager of raw came to an inn after three and a half years in the position. A mock trial by phisick Man ended with John Cena dumping Eric Bischoff in the back of a garbage truck. It was actually John Cena did his move that physic man himself dumped him. But yeah, that was a That was a farewell to Eric Bischoff's full time character. Do you want to see Eric Bischoff get fire? I think the people here summed up your career in two letters. F you, we will see the ww title defended inside the elimination chamber. You will see it. I will see it. Millions all over the world will see it. Unfortunate mister Bishop, that you won't Eric Bischoll, yesh take out the trasher. Eric Bischell has been tushed. Now remember remember what I said, I think it was last week. If you were not a product of WWE, they were gonna get the best. Although it took three and a half years. Vin's got the two Eric Dage. But here's Eric Bishaw's sweet today to in regards to this exact same on this day and Professor Wrestling clip. People speculate often about Vince putting talent and embarrassing positions just for his own kicks. I'm not sure Vince ever asked any talent to do something he wouldn't do himself. And actually he was referencing the last one with rig Rakishi, so he's seen this embarrassing moment here with Eric Bischoff. But Eric Bischoff tweeted out to the the my account today that a perfect example of that. Yeah, there's that, and that's what like what I say. I see Vince mcmihn's character. Yep, gets his come up and stuff like that, but there's nothing that Vince, which which went down to Shane, which went down to Stephanie, which then became part of Paul's mindset and everybody there, but it started with Vince. Vince never asked you to do something he would not do, and he's proven it time and time again. But he's never he'd never put you in a position that I'm aware. He never put you in a position to where you looked less than or anything like that unless you're they are, yeah, right, but that was their fate. You know. It's like, yeah, but Eric's one hundred percent right. Vince would never do anything that he would not do himself. And if it benefited for him to get thrown in the in the truck by Eric, that's what they would have done, if that would have been the better payoff. So I agree with that. Eric's always been a straight shooter man. Yes, you know, Eric, Eric's a straight shooter. People can say whatever they want, but if you dealt with him, you knew, even if you didn't like what was said or he was always a straight shooter. And he has no business to guild the lilly or or you know, kiss anybody's butt or anything like that. December sixth, two thousand and four, lead to defeated Trish for the DV Women's Championship. It was the last time a women's match main event took the main event spot im in a night roll until two sixteenth. Lyda is looking to win a women's championships. You're right, Sis Stevens fibers series, what you do? Wait a minute, I think Chris's nose is hurt already, or the hell will Trince's nose? What colors? Oh? Look at that Matrids move Chan not that long of a worlds him? Long? At this? Oh my god, sure she is taking out that can take the mask like, Oh, I'm not a damn thing wrong with her nose, but her face is perfect. You're right, What the hell are you thinking about? Got a supper cups? Not this ST's take as amazed by Lyda's shot, trenching in the melization. Look got dressed? Oh no, Town of mon here comes up statisfaction right here? No, it's faction. This is a toes line. What's the hair? Really? Drop back count? Healthe too to fight? Were's old or not? Not ing that song? The love song? What a cool moment, man, one of the coolest moments in wrestling history. You remember that night? Yeah, And I think my personal take on it is it wasn't even a woman's movement that, don't get me wrong, top the two of the top women in the company. But it was the fact that they got the call to you're good enough to do this, and we're gonna put it the main event, and you you guys can like, there's no there's no better compliment you can pay a talent. And I think this was While this was a great the biggest leap ever for women in the sport, it's not why it was done, Like nobody was sitting in the back of you know, we should really we should you know, the women on at the main event, because back then, which is just a short thirty something years ago, that was a no no. You never saw women in the main event. So the fact that they did that, everything about the Mattress groundbreaking and they worked their butts off and they ever get him enough credit, you know for what they did. Yeah, yeah, I think there's there. You know, there's a lot of things to the Warrens movement that that just speaks wrestling to me. I agree, last one we'll share with you. Also, on the sixth, twenty fourteen, UFC announced they signed former at that time for a wrestler, CM punk to a two fight contract. All Right, ladies and gentlemen, I am here with none other than CM Punk. If you are a fan of professional wrestling, you know this man, but your wrestling days are over. You have decided to enter the octagon and fight mixed martial arts professional It's awesome to be here. It's very awesome to be here. I know you've been around the UFC for four while. How long have you been contemplating this and what ultimately motivated your decision? You know, this is something that's been in the back of my mind for a very, very long time. The idea of being able to step in the octagon and find out what's inside myself and test myself is an opportunity that I was not able to deny myself. I don't think I would have been able to live with myself if I didn't give this a shot. Now or never. You only have a certain amount of time in this life. Yeah, and it is now or never for me. I have a limited window, just like all fighters do. I'm here for a fight. I'm here to either get my ass kicked or kick somebody's ass. You know, I have nothing but respect for everybody here in the UFC. Everybody who steps in the octagon to fight. Well, this is very exciting. It's very gutsy of you to do. I'm excited. I can tell you're very thrilled. I'm excited to call your fight. I can't wait to see you inside there. And good luck to you, sir. Luck is for losers, Joe Rogan vot if you for a loser, says CM Punk, I'll take as much luck as I can get. What do you remember, Saki when you heard this ANDSS Well, I thought it was cool. I didn't know that and I didn't know I mean, I knew uh Punk had different ways of training and stuff like that, but I thought it was I mean, let's we'll say it. We say you all the time, a master of marketing. And I think after the BROC, you know, UFC and now all those things. I don't know if expectations were really high to thinking that Punk was going to become a you know, a u CE UFC star, but I think there was a lot of eyes on it, and I thought it was Listen, he said it like I gotta I got a snow window of opportunities here. And contrary to what a lot of people think, we're not immune to being punched and kicked and treated, you know, thrown around like rag doll. So just you know, I think I watched one of his fights. I didn't see the second one or but I hey good for him at the time. It was really good for him because he proved that where he was wasn't the be all end all. There were other things out there and he was going to accomplish it, and he took his fan base with him. He's like Chris Jericho in the sense that you got he's got to do some stuff that he wanted to get. You should see him on Hills, by the way. He does a great job on that show. He did a great job on there. I think people will always critique obviously he's not. Some people say he's the worst USC fighter ever. But the fact that he got the opportunity to do that says something about A it is gutsy, like Joe Rogan said in that interview, and b the value of CM punk. And it makes me laugh because Dana White has said so many times since we would never see seam Pok in the UC again. And I'm gonna go ahead and say that's a lie. If CM punk wanted to go back for a UC fight right now, what do you think they're going to tell if if after everything that's happened in the last two week, you think they tell him. No, No, I think Dana White would be the next one, saying, well, it looks like hell froze over. I mean he made he made a lot of money doing that, and he sold some pay per views and tickets for them he put and a time where coming off of brock Lesnard, they weren't doing so hot, right and this business so you you, hey, you may just see it again. I'm just saying, after after the huge exposure wv's got from it, I have a hard time believe in Dana White wouldn't be open for a conversation. And now they're now they're in the same corporation. So yep, Bill Man, these episodes, we keep getting more and more stuff sent in from the user with the users, the listeners, which is great. Yes, yeah, having a hard time getting it all in, dude, but it's a hell of a time doing it. This is another fun one. Yeah, this it's amazing. It's I always I'll always you know, I let you know, and how much I appreciate you. The work you're putting in is paying off, and everybody that's getting involved and the feedback that you're getting on social media from other groups and and cats that are doing what we're doing only helps us out. But another great episode, man, and it just there's so much good in wrestling. Even the ten minutes we listened to of the Brian Alvarez and Dave Meltzer argument, there's almost so much good at wrestling. But listen, Without them and their opinions, we would have an opinion. And you know, we get to give a different side of it than they get to give, and all these things. But these these episodes are great. I'm glad for this platform. I enjoy the interaction with with the our friends and followers that are getting involved and just keep sharing it and you just keep knocking it out. Dude. I I feel like, because you've said it before, we don't talk to the week about this show, and everybody should know that. Like, I'm you're leading me, and Whi's so cool that when you lead me into a conversation that leads us into the next part of what you know what we're gonna talk about. So yeah, nothing, nothing but fun. Man. This has been a it's been a good time. It's been a good time. And I think the elite cronnies owe us a long time yeah, you know, longtime listenership after what we gave them today. Because you were struggling there for a while. You conject the part when he's like Brian, Brian, Brian, you guys owe me all leak cronies. Unbelievable. Anyways, Yeah, we have a bunch of episodes up the video. You gotta join us live though, Like Bill said, yeah, they're longer, there's more content. It's every Thursday night at nine. We continue to grow. We're going to try to get onto every single social media platform, even though they're trying to stop me right now, we're going to figure it out. We're gonna be across all of them. So join us every Thursday at nine p m. Eastern. Check out Bill them dot Com, all your podcast players, YouTube, all that for all the past episodes. I'm going to let you say what you want to say before I say what I want to say. Hey, you guys know me. Do what you say, say what you mean, mean what you do exactly, and you know you know me. What I'm gonna say what am I going to say? Bill? Keep being you and keep being great. We're gonna hit that outro and we're done, Young Wild Jeff Townsend Media sees you good night, And the question is do I stay here? Will you be back? Are you going to come back? Will you be back? Are you coming back?