Is the US Government Hiding UFO technology? David Grusch Part 2 #11

[00:00:00] So it's the week after the week before where basically the entire world should now know about aliens being real

[00:00:10] UFOs not being a joke, how do you feel James to feel different inside?

[00:00:14] Yeah I think shit just got real

[00:00:16] It did, he the theme tune

[00:00:19] Hello and welcome to episode 11 of ParaNormality

[00:00:38] As always I'm Harry, I'm here with James, how are we doing buddy?

[00:00:42] Oh, are they?

[00:00:43] I'm in a very weird place at the moment where I can't quite believe the world doesn't care about what we're about to talk about

[00:00:51] because if I like

[00:00:53] We need to be real for a second. We're gonna talk about David Grasher again because obviously as of us recording he released

[00:01:01] The interview

[00:01:03] claiming lots and lots of things

[00:01:05] Military personnel have been killed by

[00:01:08] paranormal or malevolent events

[00:01:11] People within

[00:01:13] Governments have potentially murdered military personnel

[00:01:18] The US government and

[00:01:21] The Vatican have hidden existence of extraterrestrial life

[00:01:25] for well almost close to 100 years

[00:01:30] And today on the front page

[00:01:33] That's not mentioned anywhere

[00:01:35] What is mentioned is arguing politicians and mortgage prices going up so great yeah

[00:01:41] I believe that literally everyone in the world isn't shouting at the hilltop about this

[00:01:46] But we're gonna we're gonna obviously talk about it but James, you know what I have to do first

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[00:03:27] paranormal at the podcast and I'm I'm gonna pass it over to you James. Hey brother. It's been a bit of a bit of a monumental

[00:03:35] sort of couple of days or weeks possibly

[00:03:39] Maybe two weeks within the UAP scene and obviously you're very new to it

[00:03:43] This is something very new where I've sort of dragged you in kicking and screaming

[00:03:48] Try it asked you in a year ago, do you know who McWester's you wouldn't know who that was other than possibly if you read the credits on the back of Tony Hawk pro skate or two

[00:03:57] You wouldn't know who those people are

[00:03:59] You wouldn't know who's about for you

[00:04:02] Exactly, that's where we're at so before we saw like jump in with some of the revelations of come out from the interview

[00:04:10] I'm gonna do something that I don't often do and I'm gonna be quiet for a few minutes on this show

[00:04:15] And I'm gonna pass over to James because I would love to know where you're at at the moment because going into this

[00:04:21] You weren't

[00:04:22] openly believing in stuff that you weren't dismissive of you are very skeptical about some of the claims we were making and obviously

[00:04:28] I hit you straight away with the nimmets

[00:04:30] That's the bad thing to straight away whack you into

[00:04:33] But even going into each episode

[00:04:36] You are still a skeptical person

[00:04:38] you know the palms the 29 palms that came out immediately

[00:04:43] The first thing that you were thinking was yeah, there's red flags everywhere all over this

[00:04:47] There's obviously been the last Vegas alien that got us viral through our tweet and right I got us a lot of followers and listeners

[00:04:53] But obviously the first thing you said to me was like yeah, this this looks absolute

[00:04:59] All right, sorry

[00:05:01] And it's turned out that

[00:05:04] Basically is so you do still have that skeptical mind number. I'd love pass over to you now and talk us through

[00:05:11] Maybe where you were on this sort of stuff a year ago

[00:05:14] What this show has sort of done in terms of?

[00:05:18] your beliefs or your non beliefs and then where do you think the sort of like the

[00:05:22] UAP coverage where that might go in the future I'd love for you to sort of explain to me and the audience where you're at at the moment

[00:05:29] Yeah, hi everyone on James

[00:05:31] No, um, so

[00:05:33] When I first started I was like I said it wasn't is actually

[00:05:38] Completely closed off to the idea but I was just informed by what the media showed me not any of this

[00:05:44] You know what you sent me what I've researched myself and all that sort of thing

[00:05:47] Yeah, and it was very much bitty bots and all those people that we love to talk about that get advertised

[00:05:53] It was

[00:05:54] Those satirical pieces that you get in magazines and all this sort of thing

[00:05:58] So I never took it very seriously

[00:06:01] I was very much in the firm belief as a you know as a person who believes in science over most things that

[00:06:07] The universe way too big for us to be alone. I always fought that but I never was to truly

[00:06:12] In the thought of

[00:06:13] There they're here they are

[00:06:15] present, you know, it's just we're we're not alone, but they're also not you know how sharing with us

[00:06:22] Put in you know put in a different sense

[00:06:25] I think you show me the nimmits one and then just that I'd to

[00:06:29] Introduce me to all this terminology and what to look for and what to understand and then my eyes that I don't know a bit more and

[00:06:36] Yeah, I decided to get bit more scared and that's genuinely being the overall theme part from few episodes

[00:06:43] If you know what if not if you know what you can fall but if you look through the ball the ball stuff

[00:06:49] That the media show through to the real true stories that are kind of hidden

[00:06:53] I think I'm more of a believe in other than I was I think

[00:06:57] I'm definitely more of a firm

[00:06:59] Believe it of that they haven't come here and they've already been here and they are already here rather than visiting

[00:07:06] isn't they're already part of our world

[00:07:10] This new David I could be down in this for now to name Sophia. I listen David. I'm so sorry

[00:07:14] I think rush I think he is huge and

[00:07:19] The most important man in the UAP community as of now. Sorry call Belle

[00:07:27] And

[00:07:30] As a stand for I'm a quite cynical person's a stance. I think we're a lie to and you know manipulated by government

[00:07:36] Amidia constantly and it's hard to see through that but it's definitely

[00:07:42] Turning more from cynicism to belief the more these episodes go on

[00:07:46] There we go and I feel like we're talking about the satirical side of stuff. It's so I think that picture

[00:07:55] Of the feels of the daily mail like you're a folks, but I did more in country

[00:07:59] You know it still has an air of like hello magazine, but I feel like after this it's gonna start hopefully

[00:08:04] Taking a bit more serious when when you sent me that article and it was

[00:08:09] As about the Belgian UFO way you told you yeah, thank you

[00:08:12] The the UFO wave of Belgium is an episode I'm planning at the moment and it's incredible

[00:08:18] It was a spate of UFO sightings that lasted years all in a very isolated area in Belgium

[00:08:24] And yeah, oh Belgium is boring all they make is chocolate and waffles

[00:08:28] So let's talk about that and

[00:08:31] one of my frustrations and an annoyance is about the UAP scene

[00:08:36] Is it only seems to get picked up by trash media outlets?

[00:08:40] Fox news daily mail the daily sale the express and I feel like

[00:08:46] The fact that we haven't seen anything it's been where it's been over 12 hours now since the

[00:08:53] Since the revelations came out that we're gonna discuss shortly and there is nowhere to be seen on anything other than

[00:09:00] Daily mail the sun Fox news and an us frustrating

[00:09:05] Because it also garner's a certain crowd of people that there's a big crossover between

[00:09:12] People who believe in UAPs and people who watch Fox news and I'm not here to make a political show

[00:09:18] That's not what I'm about but there are there are certain people's within those communities who aren't nice

[00:09:24] They're aggressive they're loud they think the world is against them and

[00:09:28] They lash out on social media and I've had that I've got experience of that just this week with that hate mail that we got

[00:09:34] Good through the show and it's frustrating that there isn't more of a

[00:09:40] Haste mainstream media

[00:09:42] That there is a more of a mainstream focus on this because it from what we're gonna talk about in a minute

[00:09:47] It's obviously pretty terrifying stuff like I know you joke like oh you get scared all the time

[00:09:52] Like I've written the script out. I'm sure you've gone through it and let's give them through it

[00:09:55] There's some like heavy stuff in this really haven't whether it's true or not it's world-changing

[00:10:01] Like if it's it's a world-changing statement it's whether it's true I mean

[00:10:06] It seems to be the media or of actually gone for as false it's lies but whether it's not it's a huge

[00:10:13] Thing that this guy's saying like what I want to read I want to read something very quickly and it's

[00:10:19] It's from a chapel to Eric Weinstein and he is

[00:10:23] He's involved within the UAP scene

[00:10:25] He's very much someone who's skeptical of claims that are made

[00:10:29] But still wants there to be like a scientific approach to everything a bit like Mitch Yokeaku as well who

[00:10:35] I love Mitch Yokeaku. I'm a big I'm into my physics and he is someone who sort of pushes the boundaries on

[00:10:41] Within the world of physics and Eric Weinstein is someone with a scientific background who is looking to get stuff

[00:10:46] sort of peer reviewed and looking to get stuff

[00:10:48] Laser focus with a scientific mindset and he's he's tweeted out there so I think it's really good

[00:10:54] I have no direct evidence that this is real and he's quote

[00:10:58] Reachweasing the yeah the full interview but what you're hearing has oddly spread quite far within defense and intelligence sectors

[00:11:05] You pick it up from multiple high level informants

[00:11:10] Sumits all BS then that is then that BS is absolutely compromising our security

[00:11:16] Try the other way around assume that it's not BS then this stigma and insane stove pipe security strategy of keeping this away from our

[00:11:23] Scientists is totally also

[00:11:25] compromising security

[00:11:27] If you look at it from both ways we have a security problem the answer is to investigate the claims either way

[00:11:33] We either have a paranormal cult running around nuclear strategy or we have something unprecedented kept away from our own scientists

[00:11:41] You don't need to know which is true

[00:11:43] But this needs to be cleaned up so even if the stuff isn't true even if all this is a big a big sigh

[00:11:48] Appanence a big government scheme to throw us off something else even though we've got sightings that go back literally tens of thousands of years

[00:11:55] Even if that's what this is now

[00:11:57] Then either way

[00:11:59] Something needs to be investigated. We need to find out if this is true or if this isn't true and

[00:12:05] I think that leads us quite well in so it's like first part of the show that we're gonna discuss

[00:12:11] Because segment one I've written here. It's literally called non-human intelligence and H.I

[00:12:17] An abbreviation for me so

[00:12:19] Grush suggests that's NHI we all have a abbreviation

[00:12:24] Suggest that NHI could either be alien or interdimensional in nature or perhaps a combination of both

[00:12:31] My belief is that they are here

[00:12:33] But that they probably exist on a separate plane to us

[00:12:37] So where a Grush described it really well

[00:12:40] That if you imagine that we live in three physical dimensions and a fourth dimension of time

[00:12:46] If you go to a fifth level of

[00:12:48] existence

[00:12:50] Fourth dimension of time is a physical

[00:12:53] Minimilatable

[00:12:55] Unstruct and you could then go you could as if we walk forward through an x-axis

[00:13:01] You could walk forward and backwards through the time access

[00:13:05] um

[00:13:06] He makes reports of football-sized field craft sightings and recovery of multiple

[00:13:11] Operational craft and

[00:13:13] Also technological capabilities that we're just not able to replicate

[00:13:18] It remains uncertain if these sightings are connected to the recently disclosed 30 foot diameter craft

[00:13:24] Where they football field sized in theory as I think of the TARDIS something came out in the daily mail just last week

[00:13:30] On the outside the craft is 30 feet they walked inside and it was the size

[00:13:34] of a football field and they the people outside experienced about five minutes of time

[00:13:39] And when the people inside the craft came out there had experienced four hours of time

[00:13:43] So that's true which is a bit woo and it's a bit woo spooky spooky

[00:13:48] It's a bit Dr. Ho obviously but if that's true then there's sort of

[00:13:51] Time dilation that we need to look into and obviously

[00:13:54] Space and time manipulation yeah things that pop at us are us spoken about so yeah the possibility of advanced technology such as that

[00:14:02] You know we've got people like Weinstein. We've got people like Grush like Coltard

[00:14:06] Like Luelas on by who are saying that even if this isn't true

[00:14:10] We need to find out if it is

[00:14:12] As we've discussed previously on the show

[00:14:14] Grush has alleged there is a direct link between UAP activity and nuclear weapons

[00:14:19] Luelas on dough has in the past sort of made

[00:14:24] Why obvious remarks about the fact that they've

[00:14:27] Tempted UAP to them. They've sort of like

[00:14:30] You've done a few nuclear tests in an area that could be considered a hotbed of activity

[00:14:35] And then when they've done the specific things they have been UAP incursions

[00:14:42] I think the worrying thing we'll talk about that a little bit later is that that's

[00:14:46] Attemptually course and issues

[00:14:49] But this is a bit that stood out for me Grush claims that there is at least 12 craft that have been recovered by the US

[00:14:55] Though other sources suggest there may be even more I don't know if you remember Bob Lazar so

[00:15:00] He said he walked through a hanger and there was 12 craft that instantly

[00:15:05] stuck out to me so and here is where and we'll talk about it a little bit later again

[00:15:11] There's something else we'll talk about

[00:15:13] Is he being fed easily disprovable information to say well he thinks the same thing as Bob Lazar

[00:15:20] Or is this true like there's so much to work out and unfold here. It's a 90 year

[00:15:24] Cofer up in it, you know is he being fed in correct information or is the information that Bob came out with 30 years ago?

[00:15:32] Is that actually correct and it's just

[00:15:35] Obst the mad man so let's not believe him

[00:15:37] So

[00:15:39] That is something that stood out to me as that 12 craft that have allegedly been recovered

[00:15:44] I did put I don't know if you saw it James I put a pole up on on Twitter and it was four questions

[00:15:50] A four answers to a question. It was how do you think that these recovered craft have been found?

[00:15:56] It was a fresh crashed

[00:15:58] Shot down

[00:15:59] Archaeological digs or landed

[00:16:02] Personally, I think

[00:16:05] Prashed an archaeological digs the two most likely. What about yourself?

[00:16:09] The archaeological

[00:16:12] landed seems to like not planned

[00:16:16] Not definitely landed. I think I'm with you like crashed, you know

[00:16:21] Very exploring whatever you know or shot down even I say the F shot down crashed or archaeological just not landed

[00:16:27] One of the arguments that people have said is well if these aliens are so intelligent

[00:16:33] They've traveled all the way across the galaxy or the universe to come here and see us

[00:16:38] Why are they bloody crashing their stuff and to that I would say

[00:16:42] We set the Japanese base agency sense a a rocket to the moon just last month

[00:16:48] And it smashed into the face of the moon because they got some calculations wrong

[00:16:53] So we're smart enough to send stuff to the moon

[00:16:55] But we're dumb enough to crash the stuff as well with smart enough to make cars with dumb enough to crash them all the time

[00:17:02] Also, oh, that's that. Oh, this feels weird to see us. Why do you think they've come to see us?

[00:17:06] Yeah, do you know they could just be like are we to pissed off here love like you know is a Wendy's one of his it or something like it can't those

[00:17:14] Those hairless monkeys of split the atom. We need to go and check out what they're doing

[00:17:19] Yeah, well, it's just like oh, actually, we're going to Mercury this stuff of earth first

[00:17:23] Love yeah, all like we've both alluded to they're already here. Oh, they're already here

[00:17:29] The noisy the noisy chimps upstairs

[00:17:32] Yeah, shoot in each other all the time and they want to see what's going on

[00:17:36] They send a few probes up and if you even get into accidents

[00:17:39] Like some metal on my car again. We see what they're doing. Yeah, it could just be pure like yeah, yeah

[00:17:44] I say we often just monkeys to them so yeah, and this this argument of

[00:17:49] Well, they must be really stupid if they're crashing stuff we crash stuff all the time a whisp

[00:17:53] Post-beautiful everything every other verse into a wall literally two months ago just like oh is that there's a wall there

[00:18:01] My reverse sensors were going off and I just carried on going like yeah, I'm close enough

[00:18:06] Yeah, it's weird that they all got back up and walked away, but yeah. I know we're

[00:18:11] argument of of how did they have crashed because like accidents happen and then they just might have crashed because

[00:18:19] It's quite a lot really

[00:18:22] So yeah, moving on from that rush has claimed that bodies of NHI occupants have been recovered

[00:18:29] Indicating the presence of intelligent beings associated with these craft so that's where for me

[00:18:35] I sort of start to veer off of it a little bit because I personally don't

[00:18:39] Think that there's stuff inside them, but then

[00:18:43] If this report about the 30 foot craft with a football field inside is true

[00:18:47] Then these little tiny orbs could beat dilating space and time

[00:18:52] So they could physically be stuff in there and they don't experience time the same week same way as we do

[00:18:57] And this is why this needs to be investigated because then it are they manipulate the space and time to an extent that we could then do it

[00:19:04] Well, that's what brush is saying is trying to happen

[00:19:07] So

[00:19:08] I don't know it's a weird one for me. Do you think that there's little dudes flying about in these?

[00:19:13] There'll be drones or like yeah, but I think they're more reconnaissance than anything like

[00:19:18] You know if we can have drones and we're here. Let's monkeys these guys can like have the ability to have crafts

[00:19:24] They might even just be like poor doorways like

[00:19:28] Even that's a I've not even thought of that and so the things crash and there's just something trying to walk through the door at the same time

[00:19:35] And if they are into dimensional then yeah time isn't linear for it

[00:19:42] It opens up lots of strange things and this is just based on of

[00:19:47] Strucating limited knowledge like oh yeah, I'm very small not very short

[00:19:51] Smoking up yeah, I've spoken about it before we can only physically see four percent of the universe

[00:19:57] Dark energy and dark matter make up 96% of everything so if there's a species or a

[00:20:02] Civilization that know what that stuff is the stuff that they do we physically can't see it anyway

[00:20:10] Is we have no spatial awareness of 96% of the entire universe

[00:20:15] Then we're just here we are just hairless chimps just

[00:20:19] Just floating on a rock hurtling through a vacuum

[00:20:24] Orbiting a giant ball of gas and we're one over 100 trillion

[00:20:29] Yeah, it was a stab in for the number of yeah, yeah

[00:20:33] So

[00:20:34] We just a world of germ under a fingernail

[00:20:38] It's the same from men in black when it seems out and they're playing marbles with the universe. How could is that?

[00:20:43] Sorry now that we know I do this. It's so good

[00:20:47] But that's where I sort of started to turn off a bit because I don't personally think that there's

[00:20:53] occupants in these craft but then it just I don't know like there's been so many stories of occupants in craft

[00:20:59] That I can't just dismiss it just because I don't believe that when I've got literally a whistle blow

[00:21:05] I hear telling me this is what's happened

[00:21:08] Now the only thing is is that

[00:21:10] Grush is implied and here's another bit that sort of term your way

[00:21:14] Grush is implied the US government may have established formal relationships or

[00:21:19] Agreements with a non-human intelligence

[00:21:23] I don't mean that they've like shaken hands with an alien

[00:21:26] What he's talking about is that he's talking about fat that vehicles may have landed

[00:21:32] And we have been able to take them so it hasn't been a case where something's crashed

[00:21:37] It's been a case where something has been left and then these UAP retrieval programs have

[00:21:42] Got and taken that craft and they haven't been reprivales that have come back

[00:21:49] Before we before we sort of like jump into some more of the information

[00:21:54] Does it sort of start to lose you a bit there?

[00:21:58] I honestly know because

[00:22:02] I know as much as that bit as you know the UAP bit and all the craft bit

[00:22:08] So for me it's at that level of

[00:22:11] slightly cynical, but like this like you said this needs to be investigated because it comes from reliable source

[00:22:17] Good witness and all this

[00:22:19] Plus you just don't know like I'm not feeling like this there's also been a little bit of misinformation that's come out

[00:22:28] The news media have been saying that the law firm that represented him has dropped him and that they

[00:22:35] Did it like the fact that they were overrepresented in the claims that were being made

[00:22:39] That's already been proven to have been alive today

[00:22:44] Because it's the attorney general of intelligence that is backing these claims up so grusher's gone to him saying

[00:22:51] There is proof that there is government

[00:22:55] Stablish relationship with non human intelligence he's given him the evidence

[00:22:59] He's backed up those claims say that these are credible and urgent so

[00:23:03] What do I know

[00:23:05] We've got the attorney general of defense in America saying like

[00:23:09] Okay, yeah, we need to actively look into this

[00:23:12] We're not saying they believe it they're saying that the information you've given to us and the I don't think they're gunner either

[00:23:18] No, but again this isn't what we need to remember this isn't just Dave Grush

[00:23:23] Spitting a what a yarn he's risking imprisonment for this because he's gone under oath

[00:23:29] gone under oath the tell Congress about these things got witnesses got documentation to prove it

[00:23:36] He spent four years

[00:23:39] Researching this for passing the memo over like there's a lot that's gone into it, but

[00:23:45] some of it just for me feels

[00:23:48] almost

[00:23:49] Clanted information to discredit and that's a lot that's my issue with a lot of this yeah is I

[00:23:56] Like I truly believe that he believes this we've spoken about it before I believe he believes this

[00:24:02] I believe Bob was our believes what he said and I think that a bit of the problem we have here is

[00:24:07] But no no, no, X is could have been fed to him to say ignore this over here because look at this that he said here

[00:24:16] That's

[00:24:17] Bit for worry for me, but again exactly like you I'm not a US intelligence chief

[00:24:25] Just just the hell is Jim that we know of

[00:24:28] Yeah, I could be all

[00:24:31] All right, which is weird and under kind of a sigh up

[00:24:35] So yeah, it's unclear if Grush is making those claims himself or if he's drawing conclusions

[00:24:40] From other people even information and a him filling the gaps

[00:24:44] I feel like that possibly could be more realistic that lots of people have told him

[00:24:49] Flating information and he sort of like put it together. He's put the puzzles together

[00:24:52] Possibly himself it could go back to you know, it's so before like you see it because you believe it

[00:24:57] Like he's been giving all this information the stock events and tears all those fingers at point

[00:25:02] And because he wants to believe it to yeah, you're appeased and stuff and you know

[00:25:06] You just and you don't know what he's right where he believes it so much he's willing to go to jail for it

[00:25:14] That's heavy we we wouldn't do that

[00:25:19] That God no no

[00:25:22] We're gonna

[00:25:24] We're gonna move on to

[00:25:27] It's hard to explain it because this this is more of this next segment is more about the fact that this isn't just America

[00:25:33] Like we only have a here really UFO stories coming out of America, but there are UK programs that have since closed down

[00:25:40] There are Australian programs France is quite open about it in Italy is very open about the

[00:25:49] stuff so

[00:25:51] This section's sort of like the controversial actions and and the disinformation campaigns that have happened

[00:25:56] That grusher spoken about

[00:25:58] And so

[00:26:00] allegations of lies and omissions have been leveled against none other than Dr Kirk Patrick the

[00:26:07] Head of arrow which is very interesting because we spoke about that last week

[00:26:12] Well, what did you say James I said they're not doing their job and you said yes there

[00:26:16] The thing is actually what they intended to do

[00:26:18] It's they are indeed so

[00:26:21] Russia said that he's given all this information to various people and

[00:26:25] During his time at the UAP task force he worked alongside with alongside people and work with Kirk Patrick

[00:26:32] Kirk Patrick has his number he's got all his contact details and at no point

[00:26:37] He was going through congress making these claims did arrow make any attempt to contact

[00:26:44] Like they've said they've been doing they've said that we welcome whistle blowers and we welcome people coming forward and we'll

[00:26:50] We'll find out what you have to say

[00:26:52] At no point did Kirk Patrick make any attempt to come forward to find out what's going on

[00:26:58] So that's what he's suggesting

[00:27:01] Yeah, he's suggesting faith that arrow just aren't doing their jobs

[00:27:05] And then misleading congress because he's coming out saying that we've had no evidence of this

[00:27:09] We don't know what these people are talking about. We've got no direct corroboration and

[00:27:13] Grosh is saying yes you do and here is why won't you do anything about it?

[00:27:19] Now Grosh has made further claims again

[00:27:21] You can look into this however you want Grosh has made claims that the U.S. government has resulted to killing individuals

[00:27:27] To suppress the truth around non human intelligence

[00:27:30] There was a story that just again came out few days ago in the daily mail that said that to

[00:27:37] To form a Marines were actually held at gunpoint when they spotted a pyramid shaped craft in I think it was Singapore or Malaysia

[00:27:45] It was a

[00:27:46] Sudcontinental Asia and they were they were out there on their on their journeys on the jolly's just doing their job

[00:27:53] You know they came across this craft and

[00:27:56] U.S. military health and gunpoint and made threats their life and they've come out after 14 years to make a complaint

[00:28:04] After Grosh has come out and said his these two have come here

[00:28:06] Said this is what happened to us I believe it was

[00:28:09] Malaysia and so that there is again corroboration from different sources

[00:28:15] That something may have happened in terms of threats against people's lives

[00:28:20] Obviously Grosh has come forward with a complaint to say that he felt that he was threatened in his work and that he was

[00:28:27] Basically derided so coming forward with this stuff now the implication is that how for forces

[00:28:33] Determined to keep this information hidden at all costs and additionally Grosh has exposed that

[00:28:39] Basically there's a large UFO disinformation campaign that is orchestrated by the U.S. government

[00:28:45] Designed to confuse the public with a mixture of true and false information

[00:28:49] Basically the key to this is Roswell we've spoken about it before

[00:28:53] That is the main one

[00:28:56] Before we sort of jump into it. What do you know of Roswell James from the bits that I've told you?

[00:29:01] There's a bad TV show for the mid 2000s

[00:29:04] literally

[00:29:05] Yeah

[00:29:06] As an aircraft crash late 40s, I think just after world was it just after world was too like for yes

[00:29:12] It's this you're my script 47

[00:29:15] And it's the biggest if it's this biggest story in regards to the UFO phenomenon

[00:29:21] That's why that's literally all I it's whether it's a huge like here attention to Roswell with other stuff going on

[00:29:27] Yeah, so so so Roswell was yeah late 1947 a

[00:29:33] cylindrical disk that's what the government described it as on the day it was shot down a crashed a cylindrical metallic rubbery disk

[00:29:41] fell out of the sky in Roswell, Nevada the entire town saw it there was a massive military intervention there

[00:29:48] The next day on the front pages was flying disk crashes in Nevada all over the news

[00:29:54] The next day it comes out to say weather blue and shot down in Nevada and the next day it comes out to say that

[00:30:01] a hot air blue with crash test dummies was shot down accidentally and then it changed to

[00:30:09] Crash S-S-W-E-Z in a blimp and then it changed to an aircraft was shot down and then it changed to a like a

[00:30:18] Small airship like a like a hind and bugs blimp's nothing

[00:30:22] Trashed and it just

[00:30:24] It changed and there was so much information thrown up so quickly to sort of like throw everyone off the cent

[00:30:30] So that nobody focused on the fact that on the day it happened the government admitted that a metallic

[00:30:36] disk that was shy need to look at but rubbery to the touch

[00:30:41] crashed in Roswell, Nevada and the entire town saw it and extracted non human intelligent aliens

[00:30:48] That potentially one of them was alive that information was then muddied with all of the nonsense that came with it

[00:30:56] And what Crash is saying is he couldn't confirm because he has national security clearances and you can't just

[00:31:04] Steel documents and hide the mini shower at your golf resort and hope to get away with it. You can't do that

[00:31:10] So he said he couldn't comment but he says that Roswell

[00:31:14] Very much is it happened and the subsequent changes within the media and the US government were a method conducted and sort of tested

[00:31:22] To see how they could conceal the truth from the masses with a disinformation program very similar to what we see today

[00:31:29] So much news throw it face that you can't focus on one thing now

[00:31:33] He says that an ongoing broad UFO disinformation campaign is being perpetrated by the US government and as part of this campaign

[00:31:40] Grush claims that some true or factual intel has been presented so the Navy videos for instance or

[00:31:47] Grush coming forward as a as a whistleblower or the fact that those the UAP task force and the fact that we had the NASA hearings

[00:31:53] So there is like truth coming out very slowly drip fed but that's then overloaded with

[00:32:00] Complete disinformation to muddy the waters so that no one knows what's going on

[00:32:06] We see that every literally everyday in the media

[00:32:09] So that's nothing that's nothing groundbreaking but it's still a US intelligence officer

[00:32:15] Saying that this is a technique that happens

[00:32:18] I'm like why cover up elsewhere my

[00:32:20] Exactly there's always what I think so why you cover himself up if there's not some form of stuff

[00:32:25] The do-ass dinner exactly. Oh, it's in so rushes revelations

[00:32:30] Regarding this sort of touch on the fact that there's also private enterprises that are involved in this

[00:32:35] So Lockheed Martin's gun quarks is a name that you all hear all the time

[00:32:40] There's plenty I don't know if you've seen the what like what the the war machine is like in America

[00:32:46] I want to give you an idea of like how ruthless the military industrial complexes

[00:32:51] You know AF the the bowling people that make bowling lanes

[00:32:56] They produce nuclear bunkers and they also produce the mechanism for

[00:33:06] Lodging nuclear missiles that's AF bowling

[00:33:09] They don't make bowling pins anymore their main focus is nuclear bunkers and

[00:33:16] machinery and electronic systems for nuclear launch devices

[00:33:22] You know the like ball so you get to the classic in your mouth. Yeah, you know the bell jars that you get those glass

[00:33:28] Really like or Nate jars

[00:33:30] There's a company that used to make them called

[00:33:33] I think it called ball ball

[00:33:35] I think they called a hall and they that company sponsors of baseball stadium in America

[00:33:41] And in like the 60s they realized that that business of making masonry jars wasn't profitable

[00:33:46] So what they actually now do is they make the containers for ammunition

[00:33:53] That's a company that used to make like glass jars

[00:33:57] Yeah

[00:33:59] What are the little robotic Hoover's called lid rumbers yeah, rumbers yeah

[00:34:04] Yeah, their main focus now is land-mind detection. Yeah

[00:34:08] So as they always come always company started off with something quite innocent

[00:34:11] Yeah, yeah, and they're kind of weird where's them? Where's the money? They partnered with John Dea

[00:34:17] You know the company that like tractors so John Dea and rumbers

[00:34:21] bind to make giant self-driving minefield

[00:34:27] Detonation robots

[00:34:29] So when you think of the military industrial complex in America

[00:34:32] It's not just aviation companies. It's not just burying or lock-heat martin

[00:34:37] It's not just Smith and Wesson

[00:34:39] It's literally

[00:34:40] Everyone in the world who makes something they can be like oh all about killing people

[00:34:46] Like that's just a thing that happens in the US industrial complex because

[00:34:51] So much money is pumped into it. They they lose

[00:34:54] Trillions of dollars a year in this industry and

[00:34:59] Apparently a lot of this when you look into it is that

[00:35:03] These private firms are given these crash craft and tolls backwards engineer it

[00:35:10] And then those same firms can then sell that information back to the US government

[00:35:14] So when people say well, I don't we have all of this technology available

[00:35:18] It's because that's not how capitalism works

[00:35:20] So these companies like Lockheed Martin who may be back engineering. I don't know walk drives

[00:35:25] They don't want to sell it all at once to the US government because they've got a good thing going on

[00:35:29] So if they can just slowly drip this stuff to the US government in these blackbook projects

[00:35:35] The people working on them won't realize what they're even working on

[00:35:38] The people paying the money don't know what they're paying for

[00:35:42] And then you've got a very small select amount of people within these large companies

[00:35:47] That are like

[00:35:48] Very very higher who know the reality of what's going on

[00:35:52] So when they say well, you need thousands of people to cover this up

[00:35:55] You wouldn't really you just need three or four people and that's it

[00:35:59] Yeah, so people was the dilute the information down like

[00:36:03] Like in Batman how he gets 10 different people to make a suit

[00:36:06] So it doesn't like what persons yeah, just yeah

[00:36:09] And when you actually look into it the military industrial complex in America is insane

[00:36:15] It's mad

[00:36:16] AMF bowling make nuclear launch pads

[00:36:21] That's insane so

[00:36:24] Congratulations, you can't believe that sorry I can't believe that yeah like

[00:36:27] After the show is mad like just look at like military industrial complex America and you'll see so many companies that you recognize and

[00:36:35] The stuff that they do is mad

[00:36:37] That's a huge secret make hellnets

[00:36:39] It's like oh yeah, yeah, just it's too such your heart different thing. I know smart

[00:36:46] Now rush is made of a warning basically that why is it fair that a very small amount of private firms

[00:36:54] Have this technology

[00:36:56] That is potentially well changing and all they do is just gain from it

[00:37:01] That's all they did they got this stuff they've got these craft they've got these things

[00:37:05] And yet there's like nothing coming back from it other than just a relentless grind of money

[00:37:12] That's it that's what these companies are in it for

[00:37:15] Just it's goody has to be good yeah, yeah, and so and Grosh even says that but there is an aspect of greed

[00:37:22] That is overriding the fact that this is world changing stuff. Yeah, proper parts of us moving on what are your thoughts on AMF as a bowling company now

[00:37:33] I'm afraid to go bowling like yeah

[00:37:36] It's oh imagine it you you get a specific score you get like a three a seven and nine and a four and then all of a sudden just loads of alarms start going

[00:37:44] Yeah, all of the staff are running out they can community series. They're like he reads the Mexican food is like sounds

[00:37:50] Delicious yeah, you just get a certain score. I've set up like a different door and you're into like yeah

[00:37:56] You just you just drop down and there's just three aliens stood there like we told ya told you mate

[00:38:02] Yeah, love you podcast

[00:38:05] It's it's it's you bring a mind every week when that's horrible to know

[00:38:10] Here's the thing people say well how can all this money go missing there you go

[00:38:14] I'm example like yeah, they're bowling looking to how much money AMF bowling make through the military industrial complex

[00:38:20] That's why all their bowling alleys are still open. They don't name money back from bowling

[00:38:25] That is that's money laundering that's practically just money-launched like yeah

[00:38:29] Get your money to and feed a fruit of business that's

[00:38:33] And it's okay because maybe maybe we need to do an episode one day where we look into the military industrial complex

[00:38:40] No because it's mad

[00:38:42] In the crisis scene

[00:38:47] Yeah, it'll be like oh here's an example military industrial complex

[00:38:51] The US government pays something like three billion dollars a year to advertise within college

[00:38:56] Ueugames there you go. Yeah, there's been the highest ever uptick of Army recruits since

[00:39:02] since the whole Ueuggy came up

[00:39:04] Yeah, I'm super kids. Yeah, so where we're talking about

[00:39:10] Can they hide this stuff do they have the the money and the resource and the energy to do so?

[00:39:15] Yes because you probably didn't know the AMF make nooks and you probably didn't know that rumor now make mind-field

[00:39:23] Detonation machines so yeah in the can do and and Henry here. We'll make the drones

[00:39:29] Yeah, you could do yeah, they suck. That's my joke for the day

[00:39:33] They're we're gonna move on to the the very last segment, but what I want to just very quickly to Jane

[00:39:38] I'm just gonna send you a few pictures

[00:39:39] But I don't want you to look at them just yet

[00:39:42] Okay, I'll ask you to look at them just in a little bit because the next part is the fact that crush has hinted basically that we're in

[00:39:50] 90-year long

[00:39:54] What with China and with Russia and possibly even other countries. He didn't mention any but China a rush or

[00:39:59] The two big adversaries of America and it's in the pursuit of a VNHI technology and one of the reasons that the US government hasn't come forward

[00:40:08] Is because if they do come forward and say we've got these craft glove-a-blah and then they allude to the fact that they haven't advanced as much in that field

[00:40:17] As China or as Russia then they're telling

[00:40:20] Their adversaries you have an advantage over us in turn of your military output

[00:40:25] So if China think well America have this tech as well and if we go over there with our gravity walk drive

[00:40:33] Ons they will know that and if America come out and be like we've never figured the stuff out

[00:40:38] There'll be speaking Chinese in America quite soon so those there is genuine

[00:40:43] Like national security reasons why this stuff can't come out just as one government

[00:40:48] It has to be a united humanity effort for this to come out and anyone who thinks otherwise

[00:40:55] You're mad because America are never going to admit that they don't have the most up-to-date technology

[00:41:00] Russia certainly wouldn't at the moment and China wouldn't either

[00:41:04] So it is very much like a game of chess where

[00:41:08] Nobody wants to make the first move. They're just staring up the clock and hoping the other person moves the porn first

[00:41:14] Russia's made direct

[00:41:16] Indications that China has a dedicated reverse engineering

[00:41:20] um

[00:41:22] Program and the potential breakthroughs that may achieve accelerated disclosure is happening within the united states

[00:41:29] But it's hidden by the fact that they are afraid that if they come out with we only know how to do this

[00:41:36] China or Russia

[00:41:38] Boom

[00:41:39] Your bomb

[00:41:40] Real genuine threat. It's understandable and then when people say well why isn't rush coming forward with with evidence

[00:41:48] He can't because it's national security and as we've seen with

[00:41:54] The kid who leaked the Ukraine documents on the discord server America take that very seriously

[00:42:01] Donald Trump took nuclear codes and stored them in his his bathroom at a semi public

[00:42:08] Gold resort essentially could spend 30 years in prison hopefully fingers crossed

[00:42:13] Um, but it's a genuine that he can't just go in to these programs and say I'm going to take all of these boxes

[00:42:21] And I'm going to give them to a new station because he's then compromising the safety of America. Yeah, you don't know the ramifications here

[00:42:28] Yeah, he says it himself. He's a patriot to America

[00:42:31] Nobody who's a patriot to America would want to give Russia or China a competitive edge in terms of their military output

[00:42:37] So he can't just don't prove an evidence

[00:42:41] What he has to do is he has to come forward and do what he can do when Biden signed the whistle blow

[00:42:48] A laws into place and come out and he has to whistle blow. He can't show the evidence

[00:42:54] Because if he went on to if you went onto that interview and said here's a picture of

[00:42:59] Nixon shaking hands with an alien

[00:43:01] He'd be in prison the next day like it's just or he would have shot himself five times in the back of a head like that's the reality

[00:43:09] So he's his implication is that all countries within this cold war are engaging in like a covert technological race

[00:43:18] That could directly impact global power dynamics because if America break this and crack the code

[00:43:25] And they have limitless resources then that changes the world overnight

[00:43:32] Yes, it's heavy stuff that he's coming out with but he

[00:43:37] Can't back it up with direct proof through fear of imprisonment

[00:43:42] I don't know if you saw it James a couple of days before the interview Grush actually went to a French publication and

[00:43:48] He spoke about an Italian craft that predates Roswell. So I saw that on the fifth it took on the interview here

[00:43:55] Yeah, so it's known as the Mussolini Bell

[00:43:58] According to Grush the US government possesses a remarkable bell like craft that was recovered from fascist leader

[00:44:05] Benito Mussolini in 1933 in Northern Italy

[00:44:09] Luelazondo has also confirmed that this is an event that supposedly happened and actually there's there's like signed documents from 1933 within

[00:44:18] The Ministry of Defense in Italy that

[00:44:21] Playing this has happened with even rudimentary drawings of what the craft looked like and Italy of

[00:44:26] The Italian government has confirmed that these are legitimate documents

[00:44:30] So we're back. I'm gonna do a hard cut because yeah Zencaster just completely shit the bed

[00:44:36] So yeah the Italian government have confirmed that these legitimate documents

[00:44:39] So they did see a bell craft allegedly and it was recovered allegedly

[00:44:44] But then we don't really know what's happened after that and Grush has come out and said that

[00:44:48] Basically the US government alongside the Vatican and the Italian government

[00:44:54] It worked out a way of retrieving the craft from Italy and bringing it over to the United States

[00:45:02] His claim is that the US does have that

[00:45:06] Now according to the internal documentation of this craft there are said to be bodies in a state preservation

[00:45:14] And they resemble victims of a car crash, so like a heavy impact

[00:45:18] Yeah that these occupants were subjected to

[00:45:23] Notably their described as tall

[00:45:26] 7 feet long blonde hair spacious foreheads clear blue eyes small noses and small chin so basically

[00:45:33] Imagine the typical gray alien but yeah with a really bad wig on that's where they look like

[00:45:42] 7 feet tall ends up in the first thought yes exactly like that, but just more human looking

[00:45:49] But yeah, that's apparently what they look like is this sort of like long golden hair

[00:45:53] Silken like I think is the term like wow think the whole

[00:45:57] Hulk Hogan and Grush showed a handwritten memory in Italian

[00:46:03] Yeah the Hulk Hogan aliens

[00:46:05] So Grush shows a handwritten document with small crew drawings and

[00:46:12] Not roof, but it's it's evident to an internal memo

[00:46:16] One striking revelation that's how

[00:46:19] I tried to make this as dramatic as possible

[00:46:22] One of the biggest revelations is that the Vatican city has been involved apparently in a decade

[00:46:28] Centuries long

[00:46:30] Non-human intelligence cover up and

[00:46:33] Grush has presented basically the evidence to say that this craft crashed in Northern Italy

[00:46:38] The Vatican are aware of it and

[00:46:41] And they helped bring it to America and since then those claims of sort have been backed up I

[00:46:48] Ross Coltard who did the interview to say that he has been made aware of people

[00:46:53] requesting to go to the Vatican archives to look into UAP

[00:46:58] Non-human intelligence alien life and it didn't flat out refused

[00:47:03] Now the reason that I'm talking about this is because I sent you some pictures a second ago

[00:47:10] And I will link them to

[00:47:13] To Twitter and I'll put a link to the to our Twitter in the bio of this and they are historic images

[00:47:21] within

[00:47:22] Biblical scenes that seem to show

[00:47:26] Alien

[00:47:27] UAP or UFO craft within them and I can see the colors change in when you scream now so obviously you're

[00:47:33] You having a look through them and you can't see like

[00:47:38] Yeah, and only they are they are shaped like Bob said

[00:47:44] They're like tear drop shapes like a sky I hope Jesus is an alien

[00:47:50] Amazing wouldn't it be when it's just but yeah there is there is a direct link between the Catholic church

[00:47:57] And Ross Coltard and they've a grush saying that they are aware of non-human intelligence

[00:48:02] I don't want to say aliens because I don't think that it's aliens no no no good intelligence here

[00:48:07] But there is something about these images that they show up all the time like in the background of pictures of I think it's Venus

[00:48:16] I think is a a Biblical painting of Venus

[00:48:20] There's like things floating in the air and then people and these aren't picked these are paintings

[00:48:26] These are deliberate

[00:48:27] Hand painted works of art and there's literally guy stood in the background a small painted man

[00:48:36] Looking up and pointing at a flying object in the sky that looks exactly as UAP are described

[00:48:45] Yeah, and if there is evidence that

[00:48:49] Catholic church has

[00:48:51] vast records that go back up to a thousand years

[00:48:56] documenting

[00:48:57] evidence and

[00:48:59] testimony of

[00:49:01] NHI

[00:49:02] UAP UFO activity and a way for them to show that is through art that is

[00:49:10] Hamed for by the Catholic church

[00:49:13] Then I think that these images show these paintings show something

[00:49:17] Something yeah, it's not it's not it's not like a bird and this is hundreds of years before planes existed

[00:49:22] This is something that can be it they're not flies

[00:49:26] No

[00:49:27] Certainly not they're not a feathering that flies

[00:49:30] And you know, I'm looking at a picture here of it's Jesus around a fire and there is what can it only be described as the

[00:49:39] mothership from Independence Day with four separate beams of light shining down on them from the sky

[00:49:49] We've got an image of a shining upside down

[00:49:55] typical UFO shape

[00:49:57] It's the flat bottom and the curved top the beams of light coming off of it and their man

[00:50:04] Physically stood pointing at the object

[00:50:07] This dog and this is stuff you know we've got photos of just

[00:50:13] And there's another photo of almost exactly the same thing, you know, it's a biblical woman with two

[00:50:18] Terubs and in the background is a man staring at a flying object

[00:50:24] And it's just it's bizarre. It's us a weird us same picture in it. Yeah

[00:50:32] These things are hunt these paintings are hundreds of years apart in some instances showing

[00:50:37] The same phenomena and they're all interacting with the people. It's not like there

[00:50:43] You know, they'll either there's lights hitting people in the head or everyone's like pointing in stuff

[00:50:48] And you know even if you know the preservation of price this is two spaceships in the sky having a good time

[00:50:54] Very strange and so

[00:50:57] There seems to be a link between

[00:50:59] Historic well governments

[00:51:02] And the hiding and suppressing of information relating to non human intelligence

[00:51:07] So when people say well, it's a new fad

[00:51:10] It's only been around since Roswell

[00:51:12] Clearly it hasn't because the Mussolini bell predates Roswell by 14 years and then you've

[00:51:17] Fizzed the habitual paintings from biblical passages showing potentially non human intelligence

[00:51:26] It's a good place to leave it I think

[00:51:29] Just it's

[00:51:32] Probably a full hour discussion that will have on another episode, but that's weird right?

[00:51:37] Yeah, I did not know this another I knew anything but like I didn't know it's how deep and old it went

[00:51:43] So that's what she said but like um

[00:51:46] It's yeah, that's that's horrific

[00:51:49] Well, it's one of the reasons that I didn't want you to look at the images straight away because I knew that we were like finishing the the episode off with the Vatican

[00:51:57] And you know, I'll be honest probably the reason that this stuff hasn't come out of Vatican is they've got such a

[00:52:03] Littany of child sex offense cases that they're just like clogging up their archives that they just had to throw this stuff out to make more room for his direct sex abuse

[00:52:12] Yeah, it's just the recycling

[00:52:14] Yeah, yeah

[00:52:15] Like they have to you know when you like you can take all the things on you if you used to tape over things on your VHS

[00:52:21] They probably just taped over all the UFO records with just whoopsy that priest has done it again

[00:52:27] Yeah

[00:52:29] He's we have to say many of the telly-tubbies five times now guys stop recording the same epic scenes

[00:52:36] You know they could all watch the same TV they're doing sort of a different do you

[00:52:41] So yeah, I wanted to sort of like end it with a bit of a freak out

[00:52:43] I mean, we've not even talked about the fact that David Grush said that you APs of kill people

[00:52:47] We've not even talked about that. We talked about it last week, but

[00:52:50] We jumped into so many things that have come out during this interview that

[00:52:56] UAP's potentially killing US servicemen isn't even on the top of our list. It's it's a wild one

[00:53:02] I'll be honest. I'm a bit disappointed with the reaction not just from mass media

[00:53:08] But from people within the UAP scene who were expecting him to like what get a video out on his phone of him

[00:53:14] High-frying an alien and running around on a spaceship

[00:53:18] Yeah, this is a big

[00:53:20] He's not going to bring an alien until there's the people that are complaining that there's no proof clearly

[00:53:26] Don't know how top secret and confidential information works. I've signed NDAs. I do I've done gaming reviews in the past

[00:53:34] I've signed NDAs and

[00:53:37] Higned disclosures and I know that if I break that NDA or if I break that that

[00:53:44] Hyming that I'm given. I'll likely never receive another review code again and possibly

[00:53:51] Face legal action

[00:53:53] It's a contract in the end isn't it yeah, and I'll possibly face legal action for breaking those disclosures

[00:54:00] Yeah, I imagine that is a game review for

[00:54:03] Attent for like rim world as a game that I reviewed

[00:54:06] No ones go into prison for rim world review and bar goes being broken, but if I broke that embargo

[00:54:11] There is the potential there that I could have risked potential action in court glass action courts

[00:54:18] Imagine and flating that and scaling that up to

[00:54:23] Potentially giving Russia or China and military advantage over that's thousand-move argument like you know

[00:54:30] It's if it is the if the culprit was things trees will be so careful what he says because he doesn't want

[00:54:35] You know a world ending conflict and that's where we are of the level of disruption that we have

[00:54:40] World ending it's not yeah city ending or anything

[00:54:44] It's it'll be gone the flash and if anyone wants to sort of see what could possibly happen if Russia want to press the button and look up the size of the sarbomba

[00:54:54] That they are in Siberia because they launched that thing 13,000 feet above the sky and

[00:55:01] Shock waves were felt for 550 miles

[00:55:05] so yeah, it's it's genuine

[00:55:09] Doomsday staffs yeah, it's he and people are saying well, why's he been given clearance by the DOD?

[00:55:14] But well because he's a whistleblower and legally he tends to have protections

[00:55:19] That's why they wrote these whistleblower protections into allow people

[00:55:24] To come forward with their claims but on the caveat that they can't just steal evidence from the government

[00:55:31] To show off on YouTube. Yeah, I think I'll cast I think a lot of people think that you'd let you say you just grab fast enough

[00:55:36] Is some ran this guy has gone through the proper chance to do officially and properly and

[00:55:40] The people say that it's just an stage is now what he left the army April 2023 three months ago

[00:55:46] It's not like you left a fort ten fort of whatever you know years ago

[00:55:50] You left this year

[00:55:52] He's been two months high

[00:55:54] Yeah, hiding this information away like you know

[00:55:56] It's the reason he left is because he went forward with this information that he's now telling the world

[00:56:02] He took that information and the proof in the evidence that he had to Congress

[00:56:07] He put it forward and the response was that his job was impossible to do from that point on

[00:56:14] And he was mocked and he was shamed and it's basically a case of

[00:56:20] Just I was it called and struck him dismissal where

[00:56:25] His job has been made impossible and he's had illegal

[00:56:28] illegal reactions from within the US intelligence committee because he came forward with this information

[00:56:37] So what I would say

[00:56:39] Midwest is

[00:56:42] If David Grush

[00:56:43] wants advice on

[00:56:46] How to program in a McTwist into a skateboard game that he's working on then that's when we need your expertise

[00:56:53] But when it comes to the handling of top secret government documentation within the military industrial

[00:56:58] Compliance I'm going to leave it with the person who worked in the military for 18 years

[00:57:03] Not the guy that sits on his floor bare feet making videos of lens flares to try and debunk UFO videos

[00:57:11] I'm gonna go with the military guy who's got like nearly 20 years of experience and is being backed up by the attorney general of the

[00:57:18] The Department of Defense

[00:57:20] so yeah

[00:57:22] If anyone's making any skateboarding games

[00:57:25] McWest is your man if anyone wants information on how to properly submit whistleblower complaints and

[00:57:33] Under oath testifying to Congress about UAP retrieval programs go to David Grush

[00:57:38] Well perfect and end it end so good. See you next week. Love you.