Cold-Blooded in Colorado & a Strange Russian Sojourn by PNW Haunts & Homicides

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[00:00:16] Caitlin and Cassie cover True Crime, Paranormal, and All Things Pookie in the Pacific Northwest.

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[00:00:30] If the president opts to grant Jeffree's request, it will be impossible for him to be extradited

[00:00:43] to the U.S. as Russia's constitution does not allow for extradition of its own citizens.

[00:00:52] Hi, Cassie.

[00:01:11] Hello, Caitlin.

[00:01:12] Hey, creepy people.

[00:01:14] Hello.

[00:01:15] Hello.

[00:01:17] If you're new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW Haunts and Homicides where

[00:01:22] we chat about True Crime, Paranormal, and All Things Spooky in the Pacific Northwest.

[00:01:28] Yeah.

[00:01:29] We also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode for deeper insight into the topic.

[00:01:36] And you know, you're going to want to probably stick around for that.

[00:01:40] I think it's pretty good insight.

[00:01:41] Yeah.

[00:01:42] Did I tell you we actually got a question from a listener about the tarot readings?

[00:01:50] We did?

[00:01:51] Yeah.

[00:01:52] Okay.

[00:01:53] We had someone that asked if we had ever started episodes with the tarot reading.

[00:01:58] Uh-huh, yes.

[00:02:00] We did used to.

[00:02:02] We did.

[00:02:03] Yeah.

[00:02:04] So long ago.

[00:02:05] Yeah.

[00:02:06] So I was explaining sort of the logic that you came around to as you were editing

[00:02:10] and how it was like, man, it seems like we kind of have to just go through and read

[00:02:15] it all over again when we get to the end.

[00:02:18] And why not just save it until the end?

[00:02:21] And then both of us know what the topic is and it's really been gangbusters ever

[00:02:27] since.

[00:02:28] Uh-huh.

[00:02:29] It made our powers more powerful.

[00:02:34] I knew as soon as you said that I was like, she is going to be like, shit, I did

[00:02:39] not think that phrase through.

[00:02:41] Whoopsie.

[00:02:44] Oh, oh boy.

[00:02:46] Well, even though I said we talk about spooky stuff in the Pacific Northwest, this is not

[00:02:51] a spooky episode.

[00:02:53] Don't get confused.

[00:02:54] Oh yes, that's fair.

[00:02:56] They were like, well, she said spooky this time and I'm wondering if it's spooky

[00:03:02] and no, it's not.

[00:03:04] I lied.

[00:03:05] Sometimes I lie.

[00:03:06] Yeah.

[00:03:07] Always on purpose.

[00:03:08] I did.

[00:03:09] How dare you bastardize my phrase?

[00:03:13] Are you ready?

[00:03:15] That's a loaded ass question today.

[00:03:18] Yeah, no, we're not.

[00:03:20] We're not ready.

[00:03:21] I did not wake up ready.

[00:03:22] I'll tell you that.

[00:03:23] No, she did not wake up like this.

[00:03:27] I should probably say I did because I looked terrible.

[00:03:30] So that's fine.

[00:03:32] All right.

[00:03:33] I'm going to get right into it.

[00:03:34] Charlene Voight was reported missing from Littleton, Colorado by her family on July 8th, 2016.

[00:03:43] At the time, her sister and the rest of the family had not spoken to her for several days,

[00:03:49] which was very unusual even given the recent holiday weekend, which is never a great

[00:03:56] sign.

[00:03:57] She shares no relation to the World War II veteran that also made local news in

[00:04:03] 2021 after his dog tags were discovered in the Grand River back in 21.

[00:04:09] Oh my gosh.

[00:04:10] Yes, but I was left with an incredibly eerie feeling as I researched this case.

[00:04:18] Hear me out.

[00:04:19] Okay.

[00:04:20] The dog tags in question belong to Clifford J. Voight.

[00:04:29] Really different spelling.

[00:04:31] And I'm obviously going to digress to say that I'm completely overcome with giddiness

[00:04:37] at the idea of dog tags belonging to a man named Clifford being discovered.

[00:04:43] Oh, that is so cute.

[00:04:46] I know.

[00:04:47] I knew someone named Clifford.

[00:04:48] Hi, Cliff.

[00:04:49] You're probably not listening.

[00:04:51] I also just thought, shit, well maybe they are related and they're not.

[00:04:59] You said they have the same last name, but it's spelled different.

[00:05:01] Yeah.

[00:05:02] Oh, I see.

[00:05:03] I thought it could have been a typo.

[00:05:04] It's possible.

[00:05:05] Anything is possible.

[00:05:06] That is correct.

[00:05:07] You're welcome.

[00:05:08] Though I'd argue that the discovery of dog tags far from the banks of the river is

[00:05:16] hardly a story that we can necessarily assume ended well.

[00:05:20] No.

[00:05:21] Yeah.

[00:05:22] He just, he was washing his face and then they slipped off into the river, right?

[00:05:28] Um, anyways, I have to ask, is it just me or does the thought of finding anything in a

[00:05:35] river lead everyone to escalated threat level type thinking?

[00:05:39] I think so.

[00:05:40] Okay.

[00:05:41] All right.

[00:05:42] Probably just me, but I don't think it's a fear of the water.

[00:05:44] I don't think it's just you though.

[00:05:46] No, it's not.

[00:05:47] Yeah.

[00:05:48] It's eerie finding stuff, you know, anywhere, just like laying anywhere, seeing a shoe,

[00:05:53] you're like, anything could have happened.

[00:05:55] Yeah.

[00:05:56] I just, I think the fact that it's dog tags too, like that doesn't really belong there

[00:06:01] and like if you're parted from your dog tags in a river, I think it speaks to something,

[00:06:08] you know, maybe not so awesome happening potentially.

[00:06:12] But I think we can all breathe a sigh of relief.

[00:06:15] Clifford, the veteran, not the cartoon canine was originally from Grand Rapids and he

[00:06:23] has since been laid to rest in Mesa, Arizona, seemingly peacefully.

[00:06:29] I was left with the impression that no reasonable or disquieting concerns regarding foul play

[00:06:36] of any kind or an accidental drowning where a factor in his passing.

[00:06:42] So I at least feel better about that.

[00:06:44] That's good.

[00:06:45] Yeah.

[00:06:46] That's interesting.

[00:06:47] He's from Grand Rapids.

[00:06:48] We found there's dog tags in some Rapids.

[00:06:51] Mm hmm.

[00:06:52] Yeah, it is weird.

[00:06:54] There's a lot of weird connections here.

[00:06:56] I didn't even make that one until you said that just now.

[00:06:59] Are we just spiraling in everything's a connection?

[00:07:02] Yeah, we that that's kind of the name of the game here.

[00:07:05] I cut out a couple of other things that I was like, oh, and it just was like, no,

[00:07:12] nobody, no one has the time.

[00:07:16] But I'm afraid my illusion to a big red dog just now.

[00:07:20] Well, that's as close to love and light as this story is likely to stray.

[00:07:25] Unfortunately, particularly for man's best friend.

[00:07:30] I hate you.

[00:07:31] I know.

[00:07:32] I'm so sorry.

[00:07:34] How did these things happen?

[00:07:36] I didn't realize that there was anything that was going to make you unhappy about

[00:07:41] a dog until after I was almost three quarters of the way through researching and writing

[00:07:48] this.

[00:07:49] I know you claim this, but I'm pretty sure you just Google dead dogs and true crime cases

[00:07:53] and that's how you pick them now.

[00:07:55] I that's not accurate, but way to upset the listeners, Cassie.

[00:08:00] I forgive you.

[00:08:01] I hope so.

[00:08:03] At the time of her disappearance, Charlene was a 36 year old woman and a recent graduate

[00:08:09] of Cal Poly Pomona.

[00:08:12] She majored in landscape architecture.

[00:08:15] Oh, that's a really cool major.

[00:08:18] When she graduated, she moved away from her home and her family in California and

[00:08:24] resettled in Colorado as she entered a new phase of her life.

[00:08:29] Kind of a new phase of her life.

[00:08:32] It certainly had plenty of promise based on this limited data set.

[00:08:38] At least that's what I would have thought.

[00:08:40] Her boyfriend, Jeffrey Byer also happened to live in Colorado at the time.

[00:08:46] So it seems fair to say that he probably had a little something to do with her

[00:08:50] decision to pack up and move.

[00:08:52] Oh, I see.

[00:08:53] Yes.

[00:08:54] You kind of want to live where your boyfriend lives, you know?

[00:08:56] I guess.

[00:08:58] Or maybe don't.

[00:08:59] Okay.

[00:09:00] Listen.

[00:09:01] Keep some of the mystery alive, people.

[00:09:04] There was not a lot of mystery left at this point.

[00:09:07] We're going to get there.

[00:09:10] Charlene's sister, Marilyn told Dateline in 2016 that Charlene always had

[00:09:15] a knack for creativity.

[00:09:18] She was excited to be in Colorado where it's just so beautiful and for the

[00:09:22] opportunities she'd have there.

[00:09:25] I have to imagine that it would be basically a dream for a recent graduate

[00:09:30] like her to live and work in a place known for its vibrant and scenic natural beauty.

[00:09:37] Oh my gosh, think of the landscape architecture you could do there.

[00:09:41] I just...

[00:09:42] Ugh.

[00:09:43] I don't know why, but Colorado I just think of like pretty boulders everywhere.

[00:09:47] Yeah.

[00:09:48] Is it because there's a town named Boulder?

[00:09:50] Boulder.

[00:09:51] I don't know.

[00:09:52] That's a nice Boulder.

[00:09:53] Denver, do you have rocks as well?

[00:09:55] I think they do.

[00:09:56] Yeah.

[00:09:57] But let's talk more about the boyfriend because if I'm being honest, we all

[00:10:01] know that's the guy everybody wants to talk about right off the top.

[00:10:06] And frankly, the details of his day job could make a lot of us feel better

[00:10:11] about our own.

[00:10:12] Okay.

[00:10:13] So I'm just going straight for the pick me up here.

[00:10:16] Jeffrey's company named 911 Roll Off apparently offered what could be categorized

[00:10:23] as top of the line dumpster rental services.

[00:10:28] Okay, I was very confused when I was like 911 Roll Off is this all the people

[00:10:33] that 911 doesn't want to deal with and they roll them up to someone else?

[00:10:37] What is the nature of your business?

[00:10:39] I got confused.

[00:10:40] Yes.

[00:10:41] I admit I was as well.

[00:10:44] Okay.

[00:10:45] So he's trash, take her away or a person, got it?

[00:10:49] He's a dumpster man.

[00:10:51] It's very valuable service to provide.

[00:10:53] It is.

[00:10:55] The whole waste disposal thing is going to circle back in the sort of formulaic

[00:10:59] and predictable way that even lifetime movie writers would think was just a little bit

[00:11:05] too cheesy or too much of a trope.

[00:11:08] This sort of feels like the universe getting a funny little jab in on who this

[00:11:13] dude turns out to be.

[00:11:15] Reportedly, allegedly.

[00:11:17] Because at this time I'm unaware of any unequivocal resolution in this case.

[00:11:23] I have to say things like reportedly and allegedly, which is deeply painful

[00:11:29] and offensive to my psyche.

[00:11:31] I have a lot of respect for anyone that tackles a job like this

[00:11:35] that requires a certain fortitude of the olfactory senses.

[00:11:41] But this guy is the hot garbage juice in this case.

[00:11:47] Ew.

[00:11:48] It's one of my favorite phrases to express distaste for just about anything.

[00:11:55] Not that I'm claiming ownership to the phrase or any other.

[00:11:58] Well, okay, except maybe hashtag neverbunty.

[00:12:02] Yeah.

[00:12:02] Yeah.

[00:12:03] Speaking of hashtag neverbunty, you're welcome.

[00:12:07] You get an introduction to the inner workings of my brain.

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[00:13:18] We'll add a link to the book and as always for the Patreon in the show notes.

[00:13:23] Can we change it to hashtag never the defendant?

[00:13:27] Oh my God.

[00:13:28] Yeah, you'll have to read the book to figure that one out.

[00:13:32] Oh my God.

[00:13:32] But it's amazing.

[00:13:34] Never the defendant.

[00:13:37] Back to Jeffrey.

[00:13:39] Police were called to the shared residence of Charlene and Jeffrey.

[00:13:43] He did answer the door but only spoke to responding officers outside

[00:13:49] after closing the door to the residence.

[00:13:52] So some very intentional actions and behaviors.

[00:13:57] Okay.

[00:13:58] In his retelling of recent events at the time,

[00:14:01] he told officers that he had fought with Charlene in the evening leading up to the holiday.

[00:14:08] He stated that she had wanted to party.

[00:14:12] Who doesn't?

[00:14:13] Mm-hmm, I know.

[00:14:14] But he had to work over the weekend and was unable to partake in the festivities.

[00:14:21] Aw, poor guy.

[00:14:24] Yeah.

[00:14:25] Is anyone else lifting their eyebrow skeptically?

[00:14:29] I sure am.

[00:14:30] Mm-hmm.

[00:14:31] Prior to Charlene's disappearance,

[00:14:33] the couple reportedly went out with friends drinking on June 30th.

[00:14:38] The night's activities included the four hitting the slopes as well.

[00:14:42] And by that I mean doing cocaine.

[00:14:45] Okay, I was like it's July.

[00:14:48] Yeah, okay.

[00:14:49] I know that would be weird.

[00:14:50] I thought maybe you'd get it if I said it and I was like it's July.

[00:14:53] She's going to understand they're not actually skiing, right?

[00:14:56] I don't know Colorado.

[00:14:57] I don't know either.

[00:14:58] There's some high spots that maybe have snow in July.

[00:15:00] I don't know.

[00:15:01] High spots.

[00:15:02] Get it.

[00:15:04] I'm just certain that's what all the kids are saying these days though.

[00:15:07] Hitting the slopes?

[00:15:09] I don't know.

[00:15:10] Yeah, I don't know.

[00:15:11] Don't do drugs.

[00:15:12] Yeah.

[00:15:13] You're listening to an episode of P&W Haunts and Homicides on True Crime by IndieDropin.

[00:15:19] We're going to take a quick break.

[00:15:22] And now back to this episode of P&W Haunts and Homicides.

[00:15:27] Unfortunately, the evening took a dark turn when a seemingly agitated Jeffrey

[00:15:32] pulled the female half of the other couple that had joined them

[00:15:36] into another room where he promptly locked the door and held her,

[00:15:42] allegedly sexually assaulting her.

[00:15:45] On July 10th, Jeffrey gives a formal statement to investigators at the police station

[00:15:51] regarding Charlene's apparent disappearance several days prior.

[00:15:56] Just days later on July 12th, Jeffrey is arrested for the unnamed female friend's sexual assault.

[00:16:05] It should also be noted that Charlene's family shared additional information

[00:16:10] with local authorities in Colorado

[00:16:13] following law enforcement's initial visit to their shared home to question Jeffrey.

[00:16:19] Charlene had filed a restraining order against Jeffrey dating back to 2012

[00:16:28] when they were both living in California.

[00:16:31] Oh, wow.

[00:16:32] So this is a new thing.

[00:16:35] She described an episode of physical abuse lasting upwards of 20 minutes

[00:16:40] that made her fear for her life in his presence.

[00:16:43] Charlene had said of the altercation,

[00:16:47] I thought I was going to die.

[00:16:49] Luckily, he finally stopped and went to bed.

[00:16:53] Jeff begged me not to call the cops on him since he knew

[00:16:57] that this would put him in jail for a long time due to his past history

[00:17:03] of physically assaulting other women.

[00:17:06] Oh no, please don't tell them I did it again.

[00:17:09] Mm-hmm.

[00:17:11] Fuck me.

[00:17:12] Jeffrey did in fact have a history of abuse dating back to at least 2007

[00:17:18] involving his ex-wife as well.

[00:17:22] Ultimately, he pleaded guilty in the domestic violence incident

[00:17:26] and served jail time for it in 2013.

[00:17:29] Not enough.

[00:17:31] Mm-mm.

[00:17:31] Nope.

[00:17:33] This prompted an emergency ping to be issued

[00:17:37] for Charlene's phone shortly after she was reported missing.

[00:17:42] Both law enforcement and her family

[00:17:44] were so concerned for her safety in light of, I don't know, recent events.

[00:17:50] And then once they had the entirety

[00:17:54] of the terrifying multi-state backstory,

[00:17:58] the report they received showed that her most recent activity

[00:18:02] had taken place on July 1st near the apartment that she shared with Jeffrey.

[00:18:09] That was her last activity?

[00:18:11] Mm-hmm.

[00:18:12] Charlene's phone last transmitted to a tower at 4965 South Rio Grande Street.

[00:18:21] No subsequent activity was reported on her device.

[00:18:27] The couple's shared apartment address was also on Rio Grande Street,

[00:18:34] where the neighbor reported hearing sounds that may have been an indication

[00:18:39] of a disturbance in the neighboring unit belonging to Charlene and Jeffrey.

[00:18:45] You know, unless they wake up early to rearrange the furniture in their apartment.

[00:18:50] Huh.

[00:18:51] It's possible my upstairs neighbors typically do at least once or twice a week, but...

[00:18:56] I hope nothing shady is going on up there, Jesus.

[00:18:59] I think about it all the goddamn time.

[00:19:03] I think you have a log next to your bed,

[00:19:06] like writing down the kind of sound and what time.

[00:19:09] It's not a bad idea.

[00:19:11] Circling back, the charges related to the alleged sexual assault

[00:19:15] were eventually dropped in service to the prosecutors working on Charlene's case.

[00:19:22] The cases were so intertwined

[00:19:25] that if they moved ahead with the charges related to the alleged sexual assault,

[00:19:30] they would have been required to turn over basically everything they had during discovery,

[00:19:37] including everything they had in a future murder case.

[00:19:42] Oh.

[00:19:44] And let's face it, it's less than ideal for a future murder trial

[00:19:48] to have already shown your hand.

[00:19:50] Yeah.

[00:19:51] It would be a major tactical disadvantage for the state in all likelihood.

[00:19:56] Although, and you'll see why at the end here,

[00:20:01] maybe we go, maybe we circle back again

[00:20:04] and now we maybe we just charge him for the sexual assault as well.

[00:20:08] Yeah.

[00:20:09] You know, maybe we do that.

[00:20:10] That was the sexual assault on the friend?

[00:20:13] Yes.

[00:20:13] Oh my gosh, how awful for her though too, like this happened to her

[00:20:18] and now it's not nothing's happening with it.

[00:20:21] Yeah, legally nothing happened.

[00:20:22] Oh God.

[00:20:23] But I think even fairly early on in the case,

[00:20:27] everyone involved could see where Charlene's case was headed,

[00:20:31] despite the fact that Charlene had not been found.

[00:20:36] According to the August 2019 indictment released on Monday, June 1st, 2020,

[00:20:44] so almost a year later, at the very height of the panorama,

[00:20:49] the panini sandwich of the plague, known as COVID,

[00:20:53] less fun to say though.

[00:20:56] I have to.

[00:20:57] The Panama.

[00:20:58] Jeffrey Scott Beyer was charged with first degree murder,

[00:21:02] first degree felony murder, sexual assault,

[00:21:05] two counts of tampering with evidence,

[00:21:08] third degree assault and two counts of attempting

[00:21:10] to influence a public servant by misleading authorities

[00:21:14] about Charlene's disappearance.

[00:21:16] Dick.

[00:21:18] He was also charged with aggravated animal cruelty.

[00:21:23] No, I knew it was coming, but I didn't,

[00:21:26] I was hoping it wouldn't come anyway.

[00:21:28] Yeah.

[00:21:29] Which I'm pained to say that I need to issue obviously a trigger

[00:21:34] warning for bad things happening to animal.

[00:21:39] We're not quite there yet,

[00:21:40] but I'll let you know when we get there.

[00:21:44] Again, they're still looking for Charlene,

[00:21:46] whether she's alive or it's simply her remains.

[00:21:49] So let's get back to the investigation.

[00:21:53] Everyone braced themselves though.

[00:21:55] After this episode drops,

[00:21:57] I could foresee some really awkward interactions

[00:22:02] at a few Colorado targets.

[00:22:06] Oh no, I'm literally staring at a target bag

[00:22:09] under your desk right now.

[00:22:11] Though Charlene is gorgeous

[00:22:12] and there's certainly a kindness behind her eyes

[00:22:15] that feels uncommon.

[00:22:17] She looks very much like a number of women

[00:22:20] that doubtless, countless people interact with every day.

[00:22:25] I feel like when you see a picture of her,

[00:22:27] if this is immediately following her disappearance,

[00:22:30] you're looking around everywhere going,

[00:22:33] oh my gosh, I'm so sorry

[00:22:34] that I thought you were the woman that they're looking for.

[00:22:38] Oh, okay.

[00:22:39] Because she just has one

[00:22:41] of those very all-American girl faces

[00:22:44] that, well they frequently make the news.

[00:22:48] I get that, yeah.

[00:22:48] Yeah.

[00:22:49] The Charlie Project and other missing persons databases

[00:22:53] described her thusly.

[00:22:55] Missing since 2016 from Littleton, Colorado,

[00:22:59] she has classified as an endangered missing

[00:23:04] 36 year old female.

[00:23:08] I have to take a deep breath before this next part,

[00:23:10] it hurts my heart.

[00:23:12] Measuring five foot and weighing 105 pounds.

[00:23:17] Oh, gee, that's little.

[00:23:19] This is an incredibly small woman, very slight.

[00:23:24] And I can't help but think

[00:23:25] that it takes someone particularly evil to prey upon her.

[00:23:30] Distinguishing characteristics that they listed

[00:23:34] were a Caucasian female

[00:23:39] since when has that ever been a distinguishing feature?

[00:23:42] Right.

[00:23:44] With blonde hair, brown eyes, pierced ears.

[00:23:49] That's a distinguishing feature.

[00:23:51] Wow, okay.

[00:23:53] And a scar on her abdomen from a prior car accident.

[00:23:57] She was also said to have a two inch wide

[00:24:00] butterfly shaped birthmark on her lower back

[00:24:04] right above the booty.

[00:24:06] Butterfly birthmark?

[00:24:08] I know.

[00:24:09] I thought you were gonna say a tattoo.

[00:24:12] Well, yeah, especially when you hear that it's in the

[00:24:14] nailed.

[00:24:15] You know, the not tramp stamp.

[00:24:18] Cause who cares, tramp isn't even a thing.

[00:24:21] Yeah.

[00:24:22] Shut up.

[00:24:24] That is really cute though, oh my God.

[00:24:26] I don't think that I need to tell you

[00:24:28] that this description could probably be tens of thousands

[00:24:33] if not hundreds of thousands or even millions of women.

[00:24:38] Yeah, I think the only distinguishing was the birthmark.

[00:24:40] The birthmark, yeah.

[00:24:42] Luckily, the indictment reveals that there was

[00:24:46] surveillance footage recovered in the course

[00:24:49] of the investigation that left something akin

[00:24:52] to a breadcrumb trail.

[00:24:54] Stay stupid motherfuckers.

[00:24:57] In early July 2016, shortly after Charlene's

[00:25:01] whereabouts get a little bit sketchy,

[00:25:03] according to the indictment, a number of hours

[00:25:06] between roughly July 1st and the 2nd,

[00:25:10] Jeffrey was seen on numerous recovered

[00:25:13] surveillance footage clips.

[00:25:17] Honestly, it was like he was on like a scavenger hunt

[00:25:20] and all that was required was to be on

[00:25:24] as many cameras as possible.

[00:25:27] I mean now, oh my gosh, you literally cannot step

[00:25:30] aside without being on a camera.

[00:25:31] It's crazy. No, you really can't.

[00:25:33] I sound like such an old person.

[00:25:35] I know.

[00:25:37] That or like a anti-government or conspiracy theorist.

[00:25:41] They're watching all the time.

[00:25:45] Jeffrey is seen withdrawing $7,000 at a local Wells Fargo.

[00:25:51] Question. Yeah.

[00:25:53] Do you have to go in for that

[00:25:54] or can you get it from the ATM?

[00:25:57] You cannot take $7,000 out of an ATM.

[00:25:59] I wasn't sure.

[00:26:00] That was like a serious question.

[00:26:02] I wasn't sure.

[00:26:03] It's a really good question

[00:26:04] because it certainly can differ by bank,

[00:26:08] but typically there's a maximum that you can take out

[00:26:11] and every bank handles it differently,

[00:26:13] but it's anywhere between two and maybe $500.

[00:26:18] And so some people will go to multiple ATMs.

[00:26:22] Some of them impose a daily limit.

[00:26:24] So no matter how many ATMs you go to,

[00:26:26] the max you can take out is like 300 bucks.

[00:26:30] I don't think I've ever had the max in my account to take out.

[00:26:33] So I wouldn't know that.

[00:26:36] You're like $300?

[00:26:37] What did I win the lottery?

[00:26:39] Seriously.

[00:26:40] Yeah, no, for real.

[00:26:41] I think I'm exaggerating what I won.

[00:26:43] No, I get it.

[00:26:47] He also went to Home Depot at Santa Fe and I-25

[00:26:52] where he's seen moving something

[00:26:54] from the back seat to the trunk.

[00:26:58] Both surveillance footage and receipts verify

[00:27:02] that this was on the very same date

[00:27:05] that he purchased a gallon of lighter fluid at Home Depot.

[00:27:10] Oh boy, is that the only purchase he made?

[00:27:13] To my knowledge.

[00:27:15] That is, you buy a couple other things

[00:27:17] to make it seem less suspicious.

[00:27:19] It's like when you buy tampons,

[00:27:21] you obviously wrap that shit in a magazine

[00:27:26] by a pint of ice cream just in case.

[00:27:30] Off exit 304 in Bennett, Colorado,

[00:27:33] he stopped at an abandoned farm off the I-70 Highway.

[00:27:39] He was there for roughly 20 minutes.

[00:27:42] When officers later searched the property,

[00:27:45] a burn pile was discovered.

[00:27:48] Did they have surveillance footage at the farm?

[00:27:51] I'm not sure what the source

[00:27:52] of this particular section of the footage was.

[00:27:56] I didn't dig that deep into the indictment

[00:28:00] and all of the other information,

[00:28:02] but I was kind of curious about that as well.

[00:28:05] I was like, how did they know he was there for 20 minutes?

[00:28:08] Yeah, it's interesting.

[00:28:10] But, and the reason why I didn't really dig

[00:28:12] any further on that is that there doesn't appear

[00:28:15] to have been anything of particular evidentiary value

[00:28:19] beyond the fact that there was a burn pile.

[00:28:22] Yeah, because he burned it.

[00:28:23] Yeah.

[00:28:24] Well, yeah.

[00:28:25] Why else would you burn something?

[00:28:27] Yeah, but I mean, that's just at least

[00:28:30] what's publicly revealed in the indictment.

[00:28:33] And the indictment is in part redacted.

[00:28:38] Oh.

[00:28:39] So I don't know.

[00:28:41] I mean, could there be more to that?

[00:28:43] Possibly.

[00:28:44] I don't think so.

[00:28:44] I think primarily it's redacted

[00:28:47] to protect the name of the people associated

[00:28:51] with the sexual assault case.

[00:28:53] Oh.

[00:28:54] Continuing on his route,

[00:28:56] Jeffrey also stops at two separate I-76 gas stations

[00:29:03] for roughly five minutes each.

[00:29:05] Doesn't say that he purchased gas.

[00:29:08] So maybe he did, maybe he didn't.

[00:29:12] I don't know.

[00:29:13] Maybe he just had to use the bathroom.

[00:29:15] Like what guy is making two five minute stops

[00:29:18] on his drive home?

[00:29:19] Maybe he has IBS.

[00:29:20] I don't know.

[00:29:22] Okay, five minutes.

[00:29:23] A man with IBS.

[00:29:24] Five minutes?

[00:29:26] Anyways.

[00:29:27] I mean men are gross.

[00:29:27] Maybe he didn't wipe or wash his hands.

[00:29:29] Ew.

[00:29:30] He just dropped the loan left.

[00:29:31] Okay.

[00:29:33] Moving on.

[00:29:34] From there, he travels onto his apartment

[00:29:37] in the Denver area, but only remains there briefly.

[00:29:41] He makes an additional trip to his company lot

[00:29:45] where he reportedly stays for roughly two hours.

[00:29:49] His final trip is to Tower Landfill in a large truck

[00:29:55] where he dumps a load of less than 800 pounds,

[00:29:59] which doesn't necessarily, it sounds weird.

[00:30:04] Like is that not a lot?

[00:30:06] And apparently it's not.

[00:30:07] For reference, there was apparently no confirmed

[00:30:10] or logical business reason for him to make this trip

[00:30:14] because it's a notably small load for drop-off

[00:30:19] in his line of work.

[00:30:20] And it's like a holiday weekend.

[00:30:23] Yep.

[00:30:24] Yeah.

[00:30:25] It's right before the holiday.

[00:30:26] Interesting.

[00:30:27] And, charrusting.

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[00:30:43] A search conducted by law enforcement in November of 2016

[00:30:48] revealed many personal items belonging to Charlene.

[00:30:53] And here's where I need to issue that trigger warning.

[00:30:58] It's like I gave you a trigger warning for a trigger warning.

[00:31:03] We'll keep this quick, like ripping off a bandaid.

[00:31:06] Okay.

[00:31:08] Also discovered with Charlene's personal belongings

[00:31:11] was the body of a small dog wrapped in a red sweater

[00:31:16] believed to have belonged to Charlene's missing Chihuahua Toby.

[00:31:22] No, Toby.

[00:31:26] The dog had been decapitated.

[00:31:28] Why?

[00:31:30] Oh.

[00:31:31] Sadly his head has not been located,

[00:31:36] which kind of makes you wonder about that burn pile.

[00:31:41] Why would he?

[00:31:43] I don't...

[00:31:44] It's just the head.

[00:31:45] I don't know.

[00:31:47] I don't know.

[00:31:48] Maybe he thought the face of the dog would be identifiable?

[00:31:53] I don't know.

[00:31:55] I know you don't.

[00:31:56] Why does anyone do something so horrific to an animal?

[00:32:01] I mean, not to mention to his girlfriends.

[00:32:03] Well, yeah.

[00:32:05] Allegedly.

[00:32:06] But just like a tiny little, just like an animal.

[00:32:10] They're so innocent.

[00:32:11] I don't get it.

[00:32:12] Yeah.

[00:32:13] I don't get it.

[00:32:17] Her car was also found abandoned in a dirt lot

[00:32:21] at 5099 South Rio Grande Street.

[00:32:27] So pretty, pretty, pretty close to their apartment

[00:32:32] and where her cell phone last pinged.

[00:32:36] Okay.

[00:32:37] Just making sure you caught that one.

[00:32:38] I mean, I'm just agreeing with you.

[00:32:40] Oh, okay.

[00:32:41] I don't know.

[00:32:41] My mind is not here.

[00:32:43] Yeah, you're like, I'm not here.

[00:32:46] At this time, Charlene also remains missing

[00:32:50] and I have to assume essentially presumed dead.

[00:32:55] You know who else was really difficult

[00:32:57] to locate all of a sudden though?

[00:33:00] Jeffrey?

[00:33:02] Good guess.

[00:33:03] Huh?

[00:33:03] Yeah.

[00:33:04] Sneaky little snake that he was.

[00:33:09] He'd made his way to Moscow.

[00:33:12] Nope, not Idaho.

[00:33:14] I was like, seriously, Russia?

[00:33:16] Is it Russia?

[00:33:17] Yeah.

[00:33:18] The other one.

[00:33:19] He went all the way to fucking Russia

[00:33:21] from Colorado?

[00:33:21] Motherfucking Moscow, Russia.

[00:33:25] What?

[00:33:28] That's really far away.

[00:33:30] The theory is that he crossed the border into Canada

[00:33:34] in November of 2016 before traveling on

[00:33:37] to resettle in Moscow and settle he did.

[00:33:42] By Valentine's Day 2017, he had married.

[00:33:47] What?

[00:33:48] And by the following year, he and the Russian misses

[00:33:53] were welcoming their first child, a daughter.

[00:33:56] Holy shit, he moves fast.

[00:33:59] Yeah.

[00:34:00] Wow.

[00:34:01] But apparently the happy little family life

[00:34:04] wasn't built to last.

[00:34:05] You don't say.

[00:34:07] Yeah.

[00:34:08] By 2019, his wife had filed for divorce.

[00:34:12] She described horrific abuse at his hands,

[00:34:15] being brutally beaten and strangled.

[00:34:18] And in some cases, even the fact

[00:34:20] that she was holding their infant daughter at the time

[00:34:24] did nothing to dissuade him from attacking her.

[00:34:27] Oh, the poor woman.

[00:34:29] Yeah, and their poor child.

[00:34:32] He had also apparently brought a new girlfriend

[00:34:35] into his home, which I would say,

[00:34:38] either of these facts taken separately

[00:34:40] is certainly grounds enough for the divorce.

[00:34:43] But apparently by this time, she also knew

[00:34:47] about his misadventures with the law in Littleton, Colorado.

[00:34:52] Okay, wait.

[00:34:53] So he brought a girlfriend into the house

[00:34:55] where they were living together?

[00:34:57] So it was in July of that year

[00:35:00] that she reached out to police here in the States

[00:35:04] to let them know where they could recover

[00:35:06] their little reptilian escapee.

[00:35:09] Nice.

[00:35:10] I thought so.

[00:35:11] Good job.

[00:35:12] Yeah.

[00:35:13] She stated that Jeffrey had come to Russia

[00:35:16] because he was told there was no extradition treaty,

[00:35:20] which kind of sounds like bullshit

[00:35:23] because he's an American.

[00:35:27] So extradition, in case anyone's wondering

[00:35:31] is the act of making someone return

[00:35:34] for trial to another country or state

[00:35:37] where they have been accused of doing something illegal.

[00:35:41] So, you flee, we pull your rap back.

[00:35:46] After being indicted in the US,

[00:35:49] Jeffrey was put on Interpol's database

[00:35:53] and was eventually picked up in Moscow.

[00:35:57] Now he awaits Russia's decision

[00:36:00] regarding extradition and a Moscow jail

[00:36:04] because I mentioned he's not from Russia

[00:36:08] and actually he's probably no longer even married

[00:36:12] to someone who is a Russian citizen.

[00:36:16] So I'm not sure why they would want to keep him

[00:36:20] other than to maybe piss off America.

[00:36:24] Yeah, but like, who is he?

[00:36:25] Who cares?

[00:36:26] Yeah, no one cares.

[00:36:28] According to the Russian daily newspaper, Comersand,

[00:36:33] he hopes to obtain Russian citizenship,

[00:36:36] which again, I don't know why they would want him.

[00:36:41] Yeah, seriously.

[00:36:43] He claims to be a victim of political persecution.

[00:36:49] What does that even mean?

[00:36:51] Further asserting that he is entitled to asylum.

[00:36:57] He's one of those entitled people, okay.

[00:37:01] I'm a mediocre white man.

[00:37:04] How dare you?

[00:37:05] Everything.

[00:37:08] Jeffrey claims that he has been framed for murder.

[00:37:13] He has also pointed the finger at the Coloradan prosecutor

[00:37:18] and Republican Party candidate, George Brokler,

[00:37:23] who he claims is hunting him for political reasons.

[00:37:28] What would those be?

[00:37:30] You know, my next line says, which I don't know, Jeff,

[00:37:34] is repeated abuse and a possible murder committed in the country,

[00:37:39] attempting to extradite you.

[00:37:41] What you would consider political reasons.

[00:37:46] I almost have no words.

[00:37:48] Literally.

[00:37:49] What the fuck?

[00:37:51] If the president opts to grant Jeffrey's request,

[00:37:57] it will be impossible for him to be extradited

[00:38:00] to the US as Russia's constitution

[00:38:04] does not allow for extradition of its own citizens.

[00:38:09] I see, I see.

[00:38:12] And that wouldn't be such a problem

[00:38:15] if we were kind of not on such great terms with Russia.

[00:38:21] So it's unclear whether he will be returned to Colorado

[00:38:27] to face the charges against him.

[00:38:29] No court dates will be scheduled

[00:38:31] until he is physically present in the.

[00:38:35] Arapaho County Detention Center.

[00:38:39] Is he still in Russia?

[00:38:41] He's still in Russia.

[00:38:43] As far as I know, I really tried to dig and see

[00:38:47] if any sort of arrangements were made

[00:38:51] in the last couple of years.

[00:38:53] And you guys again.

[00:38:55] Russia, like she not that cool with us.

[00:39:00] Yeah.

[00:39:01] So I don't know, but honestly, like, OK, that's fine.

[00:39:06] You can keep him.

[00:39:07] I feel like maybe a Moscow jail is.

[00:39:11] Hopefully he's still in there.

[00:39:13] Yeah, like, is that better?

[00:39:15] Is it maybe that's better?

[00:39:16] Maybe.

[00:39:18] I'll leave you with the almost eerily optimistic word

[00:39:24] of district attorney George Brockler.

[00:39:29] Nobody should be able to walk away from murder.

[00:39:32] I will do everything in my power

[00:39:34] to bring a perpetrator to justice.

[00:39:38] I am pleased that in the death of Charlotte Voight,

[00:39:41] there is now a process in place to accomplish that.

[00:39:46] That last part.

[00:39:49] What's the process?

[00:39:51] Extradition.

[00:39:52] OK.

[00:39:53] So.

[00:39:56] The thing that.

[00:39:58] That's why I say eerily optimistic, like.

[00:40:01] And it's an incredible feat that, you know,

[00:40:04] they were able to, you know, track him down halfway

[00:40:07] across the world and.

[00:40:10] But.

[00:40:12] That that process you mentioned.

[00:40:14] Oh, OK, so all you have to do is get Putin

[00:40:17] to agree to extra pooftah.

[00:40:20] It's going to be a little bit of a challenge here

[00:40:24] for a while, probably sort of a layered situation,

[00:40:27] like a Russian nesting doll.

[00:40:29] Yeah, I don't know.

[00:40:31] Maybe maybe some tarot will make you feel better.

[00:40:35] I have a fancy new deck to show you

[00:40:38] and know how you love that new deck tarot.

[00:40:42] Flash Oracle.

[00:40:43] Question mark.

[00:40:46] This is a special fancy pensay deck.

[00:40:50] It's an Oracle deck.

[00:40:51] So we're doing something slightly different,

[00:40:55] which is both upsetting and exciting.

[00:41:00] Hopefully not too upsetting.

[00:41:02] Oh, that's interesting.

[00:41:04] What's this guy called?

[00:41:06] Pring Mantis.

[00:41:08] I found one of these in my food one time.

[00:41:11] Oh, gross. Yeah.

[00:41:12] Giant eyes just staring right back at me.

[00:41:14] Yeah.

[00:41:16] OK, so Pring Mantis.

[00:41:19] Mindfulness, strategy and calm.

[00:41:23] Execution matters.

[00:41:26] Yeah, it does.

[00:41:29] It's funny because I read the keywords

[00:41:30] and I was thinking, oh, it's all the things that Jeffrey didn't do.

[00:41:34] Cool. That's what I was thinking too.

[00:41:37] Plan each moment carefully before taking action.

[00:41:41] Remain still mindfully planning your course of attack

[00:41:46] and be certain that your strategy will not harm your neighbor.

[00:41:52] In a state of calm, your mind will more easily open

[00:41:56] to the abundant opportunities surrounding you.

[00:42:00] Yeah, he doesn't have very many opportunities now.

[00:42:04] I don't know.

[00:42:04] I hear Moscow's nice this time of year.

[00:42:08] Is it? No.

[00:42:10] Is it cold? Isn't it cold?

[00:42:11] I don't know what it's like this time of year,

[00:42:14] but I hear it's frequently quite cold.

[00:42:16] Quite cold.

[00:42:17] Quite cold.

[00:42:18] Should I pull another one?

[00:42:20] Yes.

[00:42:22] Oh, OK.

[00:42:23] Oh, I can barely read this.

[00:42:25] Jay, it's a Jay.

[00:42:27] Communication, assertiveness, resourcefulness.

[00:42:33] Your input is essential.

[00:42:35] Say what you need with as concise words as possible.

[00:42:41] Hmm.

[00:42:42] Decide whether you want to plant your seeds in places where they can grow into future

[00:42:48] harvests or use them to nourish a situation more immediately.

[00:42:53] Interesting.

[00:42:54] Like someone wasn't doing any planting of their seeds.

[00:42:59] He was planting a seed.

[00:43:00] He wasn't nourishing his seeds.

[00:43:02] Yeah.

[00:43:04] Yeah, don't just go plant your seed willy nilly on people who don't want

[00:43:07] their fucking seed planted there.

[00:43:09] Oh, I'll lay nearly.

[00:43:11] Can we all just keep our hands to ourselves?

[00:43:13] Is it that hard?

[00:43:15] Yeah, apparently.

[00:43:18] I think this one's really interesting because don't they like eat their man's

[00:43:21] head after they mate?

[00:43:23] I don't know. They might eat the whole thing.

[00:43:26] I just feel like I've always just heard they bite their head off after.

[00:43:29] You know, isn't that what everyone's heard?

[00:43:31] They I think they probably start with the head.

[00:43:35] I don't know.

[00:43:36] We should Google it.

[00:43:37] OK. Google it and then.

[00:43:39] It's also like praying mantis.

[00:43:42] So it's like someone praying on someone very relevant.

[00:43:47] I literally said someone prayed on her.

[00:43:49] Oh, did you?

[00:43:50] Yeah, I'm sorry.

[00:43:51] No, it's no, it's just funny because it's like that choice of words.

[00:43:55] Oh, did you say it in this reading just now?

[00:43:58] Oh, no, in the episode.

[00:44:00] Oh, you did.

[00:44:02] I was like, oh, she already said it.

[00:44:04] I'm a dummy.

[00:44:04] I wasn't listening.

[00:44:07] National tree.

[00:44:08] Jibre, the National Geographic wants us to know.

[00:44:11] First of all, not all praying mantis species cannibalize their mates.

[00:44:18] How many species are there?

[00:44:19] I don't know.

[00:44:20] I thought there was just the one.

[00:44:22] He says maybe if the female is starving

[00:44:25] or if the male irritates her, which is probably usually the case.

[00:44:32] So are they really that like, is it that different than we thought?

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[00:46:45] You're a praying mantisonian.

[00:46:47] Yeah, we're really stretching this as far as it'll go.

[00:46:52] And then some.

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[00:47:02] Our beautiful altar setups and a lot of backstage shenanigans.

[00:47:08] There was a little of that today.

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[00:47:17] cool praying mantis.

[00:47:20] Yes.

[00:47:24] Have a creepy day.

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[00:47:32] Your stuff.

[00:47:33] Unless you're in Russia.

[00:47:35] Yeah, because I will never be there.

[00:48:12] Hey, let's open these next to the mic at the same time.

[00:48:16] Mine's already open.

[00:48:18] Damn it, Caitlin.

[00:48:19] OK, she was trying to create some ambiance.

[00:48:27] Yeah.

[00:48:28] Grassy ass.

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