Elimination Chamber, WrestleMania and Listener Questions

What's she gonna do? Brother? When Jeff Townsend media runs wild on you? Molly? Alright, alright, alright, we are starting yet another and I can't believe we're still hanging in there, Bill, another episode of the New and I keep saying improved. That may not be the case in your mind, but I certainly am just gonna say, to make myself feel better, build a numant experience. I'm Jeff Townsend. Of course, mister Dumont is joining me. Sir Dumont, whatether like? I don't know? Names that make you sound great? Can I call you Bill? I'm I'm afraid some of them, some of the names I'm add in the past, don't make me sound that great. So I'll go with billow improved experience. I like it though, it because it is it's I think you've hit the nail on the head. I think it's something building off something that was started in the past, and I think this is I'll tell you this, this not to you know, play on words. This experience has been really cool, man, It's really I'm one of them having a lot of fun too. I like to reminisce and be reminded of things. And three you and I are jelling really good. So I appreciate it, man, and then I look forward to this. I hope everybody's enjoying enjoying the podcast and the show. Yeah, I think for me, because I do a bunch of different podcasts, this is my podcast where I truly get a enjoy being a wrestling fan. I get asked the kind of questions that a wrestling fan had during these scenarios, during these situations. So for me, I really enjoy it. So I can't think enough for taking the time to do it. I'm sure you're's happy to get rid of you for a while too. So Berg. Yeah, she that this is her hour to totally veg out from anything that has to do with me. So she appreciates Thursday nights or very much right now. Well, luckily for her, we usually go way past the hour or so she gets a bonus. I'm gonna sneak up on and ended. She'd be like, are you done? Don't you have something else to do? Doesn't don't Jeff wants you for something else? Yeah, do you need to go somewhere? You gonna start she gonna start sending your messages during the week. You sure you don't need him like another Night too, or Wednesdays are open for Bill. So no, Bill, We've been We come off of two weeks of recording some great stuff about Tough Enough season three, your introduction to the wwe WWF tow training, and then also you're the ending of Hugh Morris in the beginning of Build Them On the Trainer that carried on for over ten years after that, Cludy Deep set Off and all that. So man, Yeah, it was a great conversation and we're going to roll that out the week after this one plays, and I'm excited to get feedback on that. I certainly took a lot of time to go through that season and take a lot of notes, and we got a lot of great information from you. So I'm hoping that people listening really enjoy along with the Bill Goldberg one we just released I thought was really great stuff too. Yeah, Yeah, I hope. I think people are gonna enjoy the Goldberg episode that we did, and I know that the Tough Enough one is really going to get some people interested in and that's I mean, that's what you're gonna get from us every time we come on together. So that's part of the experiences, hopefully dropping a little bit of knowledge, have a little bit of fun. There's a story or two in there, but then really touch on you know, what it was like to go through some of this stuff. So it was really cool. I know that we're gonna get a lot more questions after that, Goldberg in a tough enough series. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. I mean I can only ask so many, right, Well, we can't as long as we don't get it from um Bob McAdoo cast in thehand dot com or whatever he was called Bobordon's cast. Yeah, Cowboy Bob Orden's cast, that's what it was. As a that's a great name. I don't know how you come up with that. Well, I mean it's obviously a thing. But yeah, I said Bob McAdoo. So I was way off Cowboy Bob Ordon's cast. I'm on now. Yeah that was all for that. Uh yeah, So we're gonna get there some questions today, But let's kick off this discussion about did you do anything special this week, Bill that you want to talk about? We this also the build upon experience is beyond wrestling, as we always discuss. Yeah, yeah, it's UM as always, I appreciate this time on the front end. When we get to talk about what I'm doing now, right, a lot of people, well, what are you doing now? If you're not wrestling and you're not part of that culture, people think, you know, you're you're not doing things. So as as most known as as our as our viewers grow um running the Carry in Demop Foundation is is a seven days a week, twenty four hours a day opportunity for me to reach out. This week has been a lot of I say heavy lifting for me because it's uh, you know, I type one finger on each hand and so it's just me in the office, you know, most most of the time. So a lot of the conversations and connections are done that way. So we opened it a new chapter of the Foundation in Alabama at the beginning of the year. So that's been keeping me very busy coordinating with Alabama and getting things done. We're we're getting ready for a big trip in the middle of March, a week at Alabama as they get ready for their prom season there. We're headed that way and then New Jersey has been kicking off. So excuse me when when I'm not presenting the students or organizations. We're in the office, we're working on things that that keep going. So it's it's much like wrestling. There's no season, it's a it's a constant it's a constant move. But the foundation is definitely making making noise and making waves and good things are coming from it, so keeps me busy. I will say one thing, Bill due to you. When I watch the news or when I read the paper, well, electronically, yeah, I look at these d wise differently. Now, yeah, I immediately think, like I think beyond just the usual because it's easy to brush off because you hear about them all the time. In fact, now I start wondering things like are they repeat offenders? And I just start wondering the details behind it a little bit more. So I will credit you with that, and I think that's the direction that you're heading. So just the fact that I felt that influence, I certainly hope that others are as well. Good. That's that's that's good to hear and I appreciate it. You know, there's a lot of a lot of people say, well, you're raising awareness. You can't raise awareness about something we already know, right, but you can keep bringing that awareness to the forefront and what people And I don't want to go off on it because we could do a whole episode on this, but what people need to know is in the news when you see a lot of people want to know why there's so many hitting runs or why are they okay? This is an ongoing investigation because now we have to find out was it alcohol related, were they impaired in any way, or were they distracted? So hitting there's a lot of hitting runs has become the big story. Yeah, a lot of it is because they're trying to figure out why were they, well, okay, speeding, but were they on their phone? What were they doing? Were they impaired? So now they're not trying to alarm the public, so they're just saying ongoing investigations. But I want everybody to be aware of that. And to your point, now you start to look at it differently and it makes you drive differently. We start driving a lot of people drive offensively, and now you have to start driving defensively because you don't know who's around you, what they're doing, if they're paying attention, and all of a sudden you wind up in a ditch, even forbid. So there's a lot going on, but I appreciate you saying that, and that's that's my goal is to bring that to the forefront and so people understand, like this isn't once a month, once this is every day and no matter where you live in the country, on the news, in the newspapers if there's still newspapers, but on the internet, on TMZ and every sports thing there is, there's always a story about something to do with a wreck. And if that's what makes people start paying attention, then I'll take it. And do you want to hear Mike's car story for the week, because you speak of defensive driver. Here this scenario that happened to me this week. So I'm going to run over to Taco Belle for lunch real quick during work, right during the work day. I get in the drive through and apparently they're having an issue with you know how they all have those drive through sensors that's basically timing them to how long they take. Yeah, it's not working. So one of the workers is out there in his car troubleshooting. He's pulling up, going back, going in reverse. Well I get in line, he throws it in reverse, person back right into me. You're kidding. No. Luckily it did no damage. But I was very frustrated, Like, come on, dude, Like I came here for a taco salad I got. Yeah, yeah, I came here for an execant pizza that you brought back and then you try to leave me with a insurance claim. But no, I was very frustrated. But to your point, though, like when I approached him, I saw he was doing it, so I actually stayed back a little bit. But then I put the car in park. While I was waiting, I look up and here he comes, and yeah, you couldn't. Yeah, you couldn't do anything about it. It's it's it's so strange the things we like. For me. I'm I'm fifty seven, right, so I've been driving a long time, and things you just take for granted that you can't take for granted, you know, anymore. And and unfortunately you got to have your head on swibble all the time and being down or eat. Look, you know, you put your head down for a minute while you're in park and something happens, and yeah, thank goodness is isolated drive free window. Yeah right, I thank goodness. We you know, we can giggle about it, but every day, there's an every day there. Unfortunately, there's a story and someone's being affected by it. So we keep moving forward and doing I think absolutely. So for today, Bill, we've got to go over some questions that were sent and some questions that I have, But nevertheless, I want to talk about some current product. Did you get a chance to watch The Elimination Chamber? If you have it, that's fine, Yeah, yeah, I did, so, so let's talk about that. Let's kick this off here, the Bloodline. You and I've talked about this a lot offline, in my opinion, one of the better stories that we've seen in probably a decade, the way it's been executed as far as from a creative standpoint, and then the performers themselves excellent. Yeah. What did you think about the result of Sammy Zane in the hometown, you know, Canada there Montreal and then not winning, Because a lot of people ask me like, how did you guys feel about or how did Bill feel about the fact that he did not win? Should he'll won? I don't think that. Here's the beauty of it, and kudos to Sammy on this because you know, I'll always go back to it doesn't matter what's written or what direction you're given. If that talent can't pull it off, then you know it's all for nothing. I don't think Sammy needed to win in Montreal, because Sammy won in Montreal, right, if that makes sense. Sammy didn't need to win the match I meet. Personally, I felt like there was so much stuff at the end, all all storyline driven with Jay and then Kevin Owens and things like that. You know, did we need to bump Paul Hammond? Did we need to do these things? It's I think it's great for the crowd that For me, I probably would selfishly say I would want that even after the loss, all that athletes to go to Sammy straight away. But it just to me, the storyline continues. I mean, that didn't hurt sam To me, it made Sammy all that build up, and I think Sammy did exactly what was expected. I think he's gone above and beyond, and I'm really this is the first time in a lot of years that I'm fully invested again in watching it live, because you know, you can go on and DVR it or watch it on YouTube clips. I watched that thing live and one of my measuring sticks for something's working, is I see with my boy, you know there's been a casual fan, but he goes, oh, it's on, and we watch it and we're talking about wrestling and the characters and what's going on. Outstanding. I thought the pay per view as a whole was outstanding. But I'm so invested to see what happens with Sammy. And here's a side note night, it's gonna get me in trouble. I think it's causing a bump in the road for Cody Rhodes because okay, Cody and and you know, Roman's gonna be what it is going into WrestleMania. But this Sammy, this Sammy saga is I think Scott's still got some more meat on the bone and it's gonna be good. We talked about this during the Goldberg episode. Al Chris Jericho elevates himself in the storyline. Yeah, but ultimately there's only one man that's going to come out of it in better light. It obviously ended out well for both, but that's the case here. How are you going to go with it? You're going to use the momentum that you've done with Sammy Zane or the story that you've built a redemption and coming back from the injury for Cody Rhodes. Yeah, I don't know where they go next. I hear a lot of different things, Bill. I've heard people thinking that him and Kevin Owens will face the USOS. I've heard somehow that maybe Jay teams up with Sammy in some scenario or situation. I'm not sure, But I think the thing is the fact that I'm not sure says enough, Yes, it's not out of ten times we can guess these hokey storylines that we've seen over the last decade. But I don't know. They kind of they in the past, they've kind of just force spent it to you. You take it for what it is, but now you're you know, people like to speculate anyway, all the fans and even you know people that have been in the business like to speculating. Go, well, they're going to do this. I prefer to sit back and watch it. But the fact that you don't know what direction they're gonna go in, and I think that WWE and Paul or Triple H feeds off of that. So while while everybody's can playing for a lot of years, well they're just giving the people what they want. Now. The people want so many different things. They could give them almost anything and they're gonna be happy. Right. So I'm very interested to see where this goes because it could be Sammy and Jay, Sammy and Kevin. It could be Jimmy and Sakoa against Jay and Sammy. It could be it could turn into a six man it could it could be Cody, Kevin and Sammy against you know, the USO's and Roman or Sacho. I mean, it goes all the way around this thing. I still say there's still an opportunity before RUSS media for this to turn into a three way dance and that that people don't want to hear that, yeah, because the outcome of that is going to be unfortunate for somebody. But I think if we were like Summer Slam time period, the belt goes on Sammy's zane if it's if it's away from this particular situation with Cody and everything, but it yeah, I mean, what do you do? And to me, the greatest thing for Sammy, here's the biggest, the biggest shot in the arm, like that a boy you can give someone as Sammy doesn't need a title. Sammy's like yeah. And here's here's where we're gonna get some some comments after this episode. Sting for years didn't need a title. Sting was the man. He didn't need to have a championship. Sammy's to me, Sammy's being built in that same light. I'm not compared, you know. To me, it's apples and oranges, but it's the same kind of thing. Sammy's one of those cats now that has been made. And if he stays the course and just as honest with himself and keeps doing what he's doing being himself, I mean he's he's gonna be the guy. And people say, well, Sammy Zane's not the face of the company, but Sammy Zane will drive the company forward. You know. Well, if he doesn't get Wrestler of the Year, I'm not sure who does. Yeah, I don't. But as far as this b WI or even you know, your friend Dave Meltzer, I think Sammy's Aine's got to be in the talk. He's got to be in the discussion he asked to be. I mean, no, no, And that's a big part of it. Right. If you go down that rabbit hole as well where they injured that they missed the whole year. No, Sammy's been Sammy's been plugging along the whole time. And the other the other conversation is this has Hayman's hands all over it, this creative thing and the way it's been going. There's so many subtleties to this story that this is the Sammy that I met years ago who wanted to fight to where that homemade mask and b l Jennerica talked about that on the last episode. That's what people want it and that's what he's known as. Nobody gives a tinker's damn about El Generico anymore. They love Sammy, Zane and you know, and we talked about it. It all comes to it all comes to the same point. Trust the process, do the things, and Sammy's done that. Like I'm super I'm super happy for him. I'm super proud of him for staying the course. And I think he's made. He's a made guy. Now. I always find myself thinking and talking about selling and man, he is a guy that he's not very big, but he when he's in the ring with Roman Rains, you don't even question it. And then the way he sells is just incredible. But yeah, I realize that the other day, like Roman Rains has sixty pounds on him. Oh yeah, every bit of that didn't even cross It didn't cross your mind that you know, you think that he can beat Roman Rains, You think that it's believable he could hang with Roman Rains. I think that says something about him and other individuals that can do that. Yeah, yeah, that's that's right, that A J. Styles Uh yep, conversation, right, that was the big knot for ye, Well, he's not big enough for He's not this not that hang with anybody and Sammy's Sammy's in that conversation. You think Vince McMahon really thought that AJ Styles would be as good as he is when he came in. No, No, I think I think he was a great call for everybody that made that happen because the people that wanted them there knew what he could do and knew what he was capable of and what he brings to the table. But that, you know, that's just not at least then it wasn't in Vince's wheelhouse for the smaller guys, right, they were, they were secluded to that, right, they made it what two oh five Live and before that was the cruiserweights, and so they were kind of like stayed in there. But AJ's proven time and you know, mysterial broke, broke the mold. And then there's guys that have come in and just amazing athletes and do what they do, and you know AJ's at the top of that list, right next to Ray in my opinion, we talked about two or five thing when on Austin Areas podcast. Obviously because he was he was part of that in his few years there at WWE. But yeah, you're right, not even a guy that you probably not even two hundred and five pounds, honestly, Sammy Zane. Uh. Nevertheless, it doesn't matter because you is believable. It's that's that's it. It's believable. Yeah, and that says something to him. Yeah, you could see him in a bar right now. He goes back to you ever been to you, ever been in a fight, how would you act? That's how Sammy Zane would take a butt whooping, and that's how he would deliver a butt whoopin two. So it's it's so believing and that's that's the key thing that sometimes we forget. Well, it wasn't his character No, he's that's Sammy Zane Oh. From his entrance to the goofy dance, to the music he digs and all that, that's him and now he's being him and people are going yes, I can relate to that. It's it's also reminded that me that not all of not everybody is like some of us sor where we we know these people before they came to WAWE. Yeah, I'm obviously familiar with the work. He didn't ring of honor him and a lot of other people, even like seth Rawlins, right, like Austinarius talks about his feuds with seth Rawlins, a lot of those matches, and I think it's just cool to see how there are certain people that can come in and make it into the system, like you said, by trusting the process, and Sammy has done that. And the ending was at least they gave him the moment of getting getting that, getting his own, I guess you'd say as the night ended, because if he didn't, I don't know how what the crowd would have done. He just loses and that's it. I thought it was done. I thought everything was done well. I thought they went off the air well I was. I was pleasantly surprised, and I enjoyed the whole, the whole pay per view or what was it called ple now or live event or paid live event or whatever. Yeah, it's a pay per view. I enjoyed that it's always pay per view. Yes, so one thing. I was really confused on another match. But I want to talk about the brock Lesner finished Bobby Lashley Man, How hard is it, Bill, when you have somebody like brock Lesner in how do you book somebody like that? When you're trying to get something accomplish in the storyline? You gotta be careful how he loses. But what we often see is he loses and he just destroys everybody and everything, and yeah, we all seem to be happy. Yeah, I figure it's all about the carnage, I know, and and I believe that's the thought process going into it, because we've seen rockcas some real bang or some good matches, and then you've seen him at times have the match where at the end it doesn't matter. He lays waste to everybody everybody in his path, which you could if you wanted to. Anyway, people come that's what people come to see. So I know a lot of people were focused on the low blow and all this stuff, but at the end of the day, they're still talking about that match. It's it's not that it's a throwaway match. I think they can come back to Bobby and Rock anytime they want. But you you to me, you look at the card, how it's built, right, So what are what are the finishes? What's the stories being told? Okay, what we gave them the monsters? It ended abruptly and then everybody laid waste. Everybody's happy, Okay, where do we go? We come back with the next match and pick it back up again. So I think I think that match, if it were to being a more featured fight, you know, a more featured thing with the two characters, it would have been different. But I didn't feel like it was a big build up to begin with. That's just my opinion. Yeah, and so it was what it was. You know. The thing that confused me was so a couple the night before that you have Bray Wyatt shooting I don't I don't want to say shoting cutting a promo about them, and I'm thinking, how the hell does this Uncle Howdie? And Yeah, brock Lessner and Bobby Lashley. How does this all connect or is it even going to connect you? I don't know. I don't see how it could connect. But what do you think about bray Wyatt in this Uncle Howdy thing and or the creativity? I've never even asked you what your opinion is on bray Wyatt. First of all, from from back when he was husky Harris big fan. When I came back to the company in twenty eleven after the tough enough with Steve Whenever, not tough enough one thousand whenever, that one was um and I got to sit with Wyndham because they were still in the NXT mode of doing that you know, that game show thing, and he was husky Harris but knowing his dad, knowing his you know, the family and everything. I watched those boys grow up. No one more creative to me than than bray Wyatt. That that whole thing from the beginning, the Wyatt family, everything, his baby, his his conception. Here's what people don't know. He can go like the dude, in my opinion, is one of the best big men out there, and he can go. So he's a creative, he's a character, he's established. I'm I'm excited to see where it goes. Either Brock Bobby, just to have him in the mitch with big men like that, We're gonna see a different kind of bray Wyatt. I'm not sure how it ties in with Uncle Howdy uh now with almost I call him almost because he's almost a wrestler. In my opinion, there's almost. But I'm a big fan of bray Wyatt start to finish. I was a big fan of him across the board. Umm I was. I was glad to see him come back. But I don't feel like he has the same steam behind him in round two that he did in round one, and I'm not sure. I'm not sure why that is, but that's that's something that's always on my mine is when I watch it go, that's not the same guy. And it's the same guy, but it's not the same energy behind it. So I'm not sure where it goes. I think one of the first of all, La Knight was great. That feud brought out La Knight to me, the orthon bray Wyatt. But I think you got to have somebody that meshes with him perfect because what he's doing is so odd and so creatively different that I think he really struggles to find people that they really tried to force the issue with him and Randy Ordon. Ye, two different occasions with a lot of time and energy invested in it. Go clear back to when they fought in that house. I don't know where it was Missouri or something. Yeah, I remember reading later the house was for sale. But and then they then with the Alexa Bliss thing that tight end years later they tried that. But Randy Orton's one of the best wrestlers ever probably, Yeah, you could say that, and it's gonna be hard to argue it. Saying the best ever. Sure you can argue that to say he's one of them. He did some good stuff with him, but ultimately the payoff was just never there. And this matches. Yeah, I think it's hard to find a guy that meshes with bray Wyatt's style that I agree. And that's that's the thing. Here's here's who I think would mesh with bray Wyatt very well. And maybe we'll keep track of the date and time we said this and having this conversation. I think Cody Rhodes and bray Wyatt would would tear the house down and not just once. I think there there could be a story there that would would it would accentuate what Bray does his character wise and everything and bring bring the best out in Cody as well. I'm gonna hold on to that and I'm I'm I'm hoping we see that down the road after Mania, because I think Bray White Cody Rhodes would be a good um, a good interaction. We talk about Uncle Howdy. I mean, I'm gonna ask you who you think it is, but I will say one thing seeing I saw this video backstage of him just walking by full costume, this uncle, how do you get? Apparently it's pretty closed lips behind the scenes as well. This guy, this guy's walking around full gimmick at all times. From what it's like. The dirt sheets are saying, I love it. If that's the case, that's funny. But who do you think it is? What do you think it is? What's going on with that? I'm I'm always say I say I'm a student of knowing people. I've watched how this cap moves, I've watched his posture, I've watched kind of like standing in the ring the stands, and I know it's been said before. But I'm almost gonna I feel like this is an episode of um what What's does? Show the singers where they hide the mass singer? Right? Who's the Who's the person? I'm gonna go with its bow Dallas because I'm gonna ask me I know that body language? I don't. I don't know who was in it before because I think it's had a couple of transitional ones. One time it came out it was a shorter stock gear person in the in the in the deal. But I think this Uncle Howdy, for the way the person moves in the ring and the demeanor, I'm going with bow Dallas. Bill, What the hell happened with bow Dallas on the main roster? Listen, everybody that was a success in the old NXT brand came up ready to go. That was the thing about NXT. You were getting groomed to be ready to join the main roster, as is everybody to a t. Everyone, every man and every woman, had a short lived deal with their character they came in with. Everybody was changed. Bow Dallas. The Bowliave thing I think could have went further, but I don't think anybody bowlieved in him. I thought they was just a they treated like, yeah, you know, And that's the thing. If somebody goes I don't get it, no one, no one gets behind it. The key it's good, good looking kid, good athlete. He has a good mind in my opinion for what goes on. And I think he was kind of just without knowing this for a fact, I think he was just kind of taking down and taking down and start to get complacent about things, you know, and then they just kind of well they put him with Axel for a little bit and all this other stuff, but it was just it was just kind of throwaway stuff and there wasn't anything really to get behind And knowing those those those boys, like I do, I know they were pitching things. So it's just it's just one of the watching the watching the guys and girls that came up from from NXT having their things altered or perception changed. It took them out of everything they worked for. And that's the only thing I could think that happened because he's a good kid. I don't I don't know, um, I don't know if he ever gotten any kind of trouble or he had any heat or anything like that, But never when I was around and I know he I know he was well liked. I just I think he's just a casualty of war. Same with Axel. I mean, we can go on about heading forever, so forget it. Yeah, It's like then you remember, like an Adam Rose coming up and this completely different character than he's ever done before and try to make it work. And it did for a while, but it just that that was a dead end character obviously. But yeah, I mean I think it's I hope this is like a like another opportunity for Bo Dallas. I hope so too. I hope so too, because it's like the it's like the funk of Dactyls. Vince showed Brotus Clay how to dance. Vince was out there every night during the day before TV started doing the dance for Brotus. He was all into it. And once once it becomes old hat, it's done, we don't believe me. It's this, you know, you're this and that the hip hop hippo, and then he was Adrian, and then he was Ten's Eye, and then he was you know. It's just it's very hard to keep reinventing yourself when nobody's really behind what you're doing. And I think a lot of people go, oh, well, he sucks or she sucks, or they're the ships or whatever the king. No, it's just sometimes they're just a casualty of two hundred and fifty people on a roster that can only hold two dozen. You know. Yeah, you talk about they were pitching this brutus Clay as a monster, the vignettes like that. I thought, I remember the previous vignette being him just being this monster. Then he comes out somebody, oh my mom, it's just like and I was like, what the heck? Like the people got with it, yep, and they they enjoyed him. He was the new two cold Scorpio and and you know all this stuff. He was a new godfather. And and then once they got sick of that, Okay, moving on, now we're gonna buy it. You know, what do you think about Ria Ripley money from day one? Next money, Like just I'm so glad she's had the time because I forget, was it two years ago? She may invented during the COVID thing with with Charlotte through years ago. So that felt that was a good match, but it felt rushed after yes, and then afterwards they didn't know what to do with her, right, but what she's done and what they've done in that time frame, she's she's money. She physically is better her her um, her presentation is off the charts. She's now what what you know? A lot of people consider she's the head of the the you know the group j Yeah, the Judgment Day, She's the head of it. She's the voice. Um, she's I say she, I shouldn't say, Rha is the one making dom mysterio. I think she's money from the jump, and it will not hurt her in the least. It will not hurt her in the least to be separated from Judgment Day. I think it may her Judgment Day down the line. I think, you know, when when Ria does truly go off on to her own, I think it'll hurt that Judgment Day group. I think we're to see Rea become everything that China could have been. And I don't mean that it's not a shot of Joanie at all. China can only go so far in the company. I think Ria is the future of women's you know, wrestle. You have Charlotte who's untouchable, but then you have these these personas and these characters, and I think she's dynamite. Man. I enjoy watching her. Ria Ripley and Sonya Deville are my two favorite ones to watch now. And you send you Deville. I mean, she's another tough enough person, right. I don't know what it is about her, like it's as a coach. You look at her and go I think she has all the tools. I think she did an awesome job with Adam Pierce in that time where she was a great job by the way, oh my gosh, and now she's coming back and getting physical and wrestling again. I was a big fan of that. So you know, I'm just a fan of how she like I say on screen, because I don't know we're all outside of anything other than I see on screen. But I always go by, Okay, this is what I see, this is what I like, this is what I feel like it's going. And I think she's another solid another solid woman coming. These chamber matches for me are always a little bit weird because there's one pay per view where I could think of what I'm about to talk about works well with They really have this gimmick match and they're trying to put the pieces together into the gimmick match instead of using the gimmick match for the people. If that's what I'm saying, it's kind of asked backwards on how you normally book something. I think that works out with the real Rumble, and they do a great job going through all the different storylines in the wal Rumble. Yeah, but in this instance, it's all it's weird for me where you're taking this match and you're trying to do that right, You're trying to cater to the match instead of the people. But this year I thought the women's match was I thought it was good. It is good to see Oscar come back. She's kind of been re imaged, I guess, yeah. And she's just very talented. I mean, I just feel like, in my heart she's not going to get past where she was. I don't know what. I don't know what the reason is, because she's a bro Well. They brought her in Bill and they said she had an undefeated shrink like Bill Goldberg, and then she came on the main roster and lost medialy Attle Miss and it's just I don't I don't know. When you know, there's a lot of opinions out there, one of the big opinions was, well, Vince doesn't like Asian wrestlers or Asian wrestlers only going to get so far and the US and all that stuff. Um, I don't follow what people say or what they think unless you've been in the business and you're kind of in control or have your finger on the pulse. I think she's so amazing, but she's she's another casualty of I don't know if it's the system or how things are done, because I feel like this is another one. If he just let her loose, man just let her loose, and so maybe I don't know, I don't know, but maybe she's confused on what that means. But I don't feel like they're really letting her do her thing. I hope that this this thing with Bianca bell Air, right, that's who she's working with, um at mania? Is that? Is that what they built it for? Yeah, because Charlotte's yeah yeah. So I really hope that it really brings her to the next level because the fans. Here's the thing. If the fans like you, they like you. If they love you, they love you. But after a while they realize nothing's going to happen. With you, and they kind of just they get salty about it, you know, it's like, uh, oh, okay, we get it. Like I feel like Nicky Cross was a victim of that as well. So many only so many can have so much steam on them at a time, and I think that's that's terrible. I think, if it's work and let him run with it. But I'm a big fan of Oscar as well. I think I think she's great. What do you think about having to elimination chamber matches in one night? Obviously, I think it's important that the women get that platform as well, but it's kind of strange to me to have that. It's like, if you have it's like the Royal Rumble now, right, there's two Royal Rumble matches, and it takes away the I don't know what I'm trying to say. Like, now, WrestleMania's two nights, Yeah, I get I guess if the elimination Chamber was two nights where you had the men's one night and the woman's you know, the next night, maybe I get it. But to your point, the same in the same three hour time period or whatever it is, It's just it's just overkill and you kind of forget all the work that went into it, by the by the by the talent and things like that. But I'm just not a fan of that. You know, back wc W, we did the three rings right the ninety Yep, they're World War three or whatever it was called. That was it. You didn't have every match wrestling in three rings, you know, that was the it's the elimination chamber. It's not the elimination chambers. It's not you know, it's it's very hard to follow and really get behind because you almost wear people out. Because the women had a good chamber, the man had a good chamber. So that's where you go back to my brock thing. That kind of you know, evened out the tempo of the night. But I'm not I'm not a meat personally. I'm not a fan of both being on the same show. That's a lot of the data being now right tlc Helen a Cell Extreme rules. It's it's just a lot of gimmick. It's like that they're trying to book around instead of using the gimmick in the booking for the characters. So yeah, I thought the women's match is good. I thought Carmelo was good doing what she does. That sort of her and Austin theory are like that. I guess you'd say the chicken shit characters, right, yea. I thought everybody did their part, was my point. And I do want to ask you what about this Logan Paul guy. My gosh, he fits right in like it's a natural, doesn't he? She's man he at the rumble, Him and Rick and Chet give us one of the most memorable spots of the of the pay per view unbelievable athleticis hey, go back? The guy may have ended a pay per view with six months of a part time experience. Yeah, and hats off to everybody that's gotten him there. Hats off to him for taking it so seriously. I know everybody gave bad Bunny his flowers. You gotta give him to Logan Paul. But here he comes, here, he comes again. He makes he makes uh an impression on everyone, and you can't book him with a better opponent than Seth Rollins, Like, either this is gonna be one of the greatest one offs or this story is going to carry over till the next wrestle meeting. That's that's how much. That's how much faith in stock I'd put into Seth, But who knows what Logan Paul's you know, schedule is. You know, it seems like he has the same kind of schedules Ronda and Brock and the rest of him. Um, so it's it's gonna be limited thing. But if he can dance with Seth. I thought it was great booking. I thought the impact was good. And I think he's starting to feel, you know, feel the get that wrestler inside of him a little bit. So I you know, he outstanding. Nothing you'd see about his athleticism because clearly you can teach him something and he can do it. Yeah, speaking of athleticism, monts for obviously, did you think he was hurt? Like they set up that door scene pretty damn good. I thought, yeah, he had me, He had me. Uh, I love to just watch to see what happens, and I'm like, my man's out. But what a better way to write? Make the doors stay? You know, everything was done and but there he is. Montees Ford I think a student of the game. He was in the he was in the tryout camp that one of the last try out camps I was a part of, and so I never got to actually train with him or get to know him, know him, but you knew what kind of athlete he was, then you see what he can do now. Um another great example of just a good person in and out of the ring. But he had me, and I think it was a good It was a good platform for him. It put him in the light with the with the main eventors, you know, with the with the with the top top people. So good for him. Yeah, but he had me. I believe that. I believed he was out and he was hurt and well done. Yeah, And I don't know how else you would have got the door opened. So props to whoever or what team came up with that to get Logan Paul in there. But yeah, Logan Paul Is, he's so talented to disabil to come in and do that. And I think it's gonna be potentially the I don't know how it's gonna shake out. It's gonna be a it could be a top three matches that we see these nights. Obviously Sammy's and Kevin Owens whatever, that's gonna be one. Cody Rhodes, Roman Rights is gonna be one, and that one's gonna be good. Man. If it's any indicator if he went in there with Roman rains and just tore the house down in Saudi Arabia. I mean that you believed he just needed one moment, one bit moment. You know, I don't know. I'm a big fan. I'd make sure that Cody and Roman are on a different night than Logan and Seth. Don't put them both because there's gonna be a lot of comparisons there, and you want all eyes on Cody and Roman. But knowing Seth and what he can do and the way his mind works and how he works with others, and Logan Paul's athleticism and desire to want to do this, I think they have the potential, to your point, being one of the top three of the whole WrestleMania. Yeah. I think where I was going with that is I could see it be on the main event of the first night. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, which puts which puts Charlotte in a tough position. Yeah, it's because they've done a good job at their matches the WrestleMania, the Women's the main event matches, So what about on the a w N. I'm not gonna lie. I haven't not a lot of storylines. I've been into a whole lot lately. MJF has kind of runned his course. It's kind of stalling out for me, not because of him. But you see that basketball match I sent? Yeah? No, yeah, I tweeted it to you. You'll have to watch it all I'll have to watch it. Okay. Yeah, they had a gimmick basketball match for the All Star weekend. I think, sort of theme the NBA weekend that happened last week. Oh okay, okay, No, I didn't see it. I missed it. But yeah, so are you in the boat with me? I'm obviously like I'm a fan of a lot of the wrestlers there. I just the stories right now. There's nothing to jumping out to me. Yeah, I here's what I did enjoy watching this week's a w was. I think Daniel Bright knocked him mout knocked him silly. That outside four Army came with. You know, you know, if we're gonna go talk about it, why would you you're talking about a man's family. Brian tells them, you talk about my family, I'm gonna kick the you know what out of you, and Jeff walks right in to the middle of the ring, So I lose the story there to your point, like there's that, Um, I don't think there's a lot of story driven stuff. There's great, there's great action and stuff like that. It's not that it gets It's not a knock on the talent at all. No. When I say that, it's it's tremendous talent. Um. But it's it's a lot of It's a lot, right, they're putting ten pounds into a five comeback every week. Um So, But stories, story driven things always keep people's attention. In my just my opinion, I'm a fan of storyteller. I've got one more aw question, okay, Ken, the Young Bucks and Kenny Omega and Cempunk come to terms and do business together? Could could could see Impug handle that? Could the Young Bucks handle that? Because I think there's a money that could be made there. I think it has to come down with everybody understanding who the boss is, who has who has the say, and what's your role in the company. UM to be honest, and I hope it doesn't come across the wrong way. Tony Cohn's letting this all happen. I'm I'm I'm of the I'm of the time when bookers and executives weren't part of the locker room. So I think that causes a lot of animosity as it is. But if you're gonna let someone come in and run rough shot like that and tear your company apart and sit next to him and let him do it, there's bound to be dissension. But I think I think everybody could get along business wise, and by business wise being showing up to the TV's and to the events and then going their own separate ways. I don't know if they can all exist in the same thing because Feel's opinionated, Kenny's opinionated, the bucks are opinionated, all have great points to make, and it comes out to, well, we're in charge, you do this. Why didn't come in to do that? He brought me in to do this, Like somebody's got to stand up and go, I'm the boss's here's the rules of the game. It like triple hs. You say, here's the playbook we use. If you can't go by this playbook, no harm, no foul, do you think somewhere else? I don't know if they can coexist, And I think I think see him punks at the point where I know, I don't know. I want to say, I know, I don't know personally, but I feel like he was honest when he said he was glad to be back. But I also know that he knows he can survive without it, so he kind of he kind of made waves and brought everything up and then he's gone again. So he could either show up at WrestleMania, or he could show up, you know, at another pay per view. I think either way, somebody has to let it be no news in charge and and what's going to happen. It doesn't always seem to me like it's the young bucks top agenda to draw money. It kind of seems like they just like doing their gimmicks and the things that they like to do, and it's entertaining that you can't doubt that. I can't deny it's entertaining. But it seems to be like a different motive for the wrestling for them. They're great. They're great at they like, all of a sudden, they just pull some stuff out of their hat and go, WHOA. But I can see what you're saying, because it's here's how we do it. We enjoy doing it. We're good at what we do the people like to see that. I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure story wise, how if you could make it work and get like for me, I'd like to get to know them. But it's all it's all geared to their comfort zone. So yeah, some people would say geared to their video game style. Yeah, yeah, we're asking me. I don't know if I go that far, but it does seem like they have a different agenda. I'm not saying agendas and like not wrong. Yeah, so let's go to some questions here. What do you think? All right? Cool, let's do it all right. A lot of these are people, some of these are people on Twitter than email. So Joe Watson on Twitter wants to know why did WCW and in your opinion, why did they drop or how did they drop the ball with the hardcore division that they tried to roll out while WWF and ECW were doing their thing. You are a big part of that. That's a good question. There were so many injuries, like we we had some of the guys from ec W that came over, and we had other guys that and people that were not necessarily schooled in hardcore. And for all those who don't think you need to be schooled and have a certain skill set and mindset for that. You're sadly mistaken. But I think once it got to the point where here's the thing. Fip Binley had his leg sliced off at a live event because we were not granted the tables and things needed. We were told just grab a table from the arena. What was a fiberglass table that he was thrown through and slit his leg. I remember, I think it was Jackson, Mississippi. Guys running breaking character, running with towels, all the blood and everything in his leg hanging off, and it's all because we weren't we weren't perceived as something that just just find some stuff in the arenas. We're not. We're not paying the ship that stuff, and we're not paying to you know, for for safety things. Um. And then guys were getting involved and literally hurting people left and right. I mean this spot here in my head, Yeah, it's from a garbage can lid that van hammer held the wrong way handle out and literally scalped me duggy into my head. They came out the stories. They came out with my hair when I had the long hair with the skin and then my scalp and the blood and everything, and I'm bleeding profusely. They brought it into the back and asked me if I wanted sewed back on, and bam, bam, Bigelotle passed out. It was. It was the gorious thing you ever saw. But guys were just getting hurt and left and right and then people. While it was cool in the beginning, it turned out not to be like something they wanted to keep doing. Um. I think the climax of that was that m fire pit of a junkyard we did, and that could have been the beginning of the end. Good question, though, because you were a harder question when I actually think of that failed hardcore experiment in WCW. You were one of the guys out there performing it. Yeah, I mean, and it was bad and it started to turn into a gimmick thing because then you had billy crawling under trucks to get a trophy, right that, you know, so it started to become a mockery after a while. Yeah, WCW did not, whereas they may have had the Cruiser right division and stuff like that. They Yeah, hardcore was bad. We didn't. We didn't do that. It's justice for sure. Yeah, Nick Foley walked out that door years before it was it was gone. I went from bob wire baseball bats and steel cages and bob wire cages to getting blown up in a junkyard. Yeah, okay, let's see it else we got here. This is from Jacob Elite. I don't know if that's a reference to the Elite or not. A nineteen nineties so maybe that's the areas born. Let's see here, Bill, your opinion on the top five best wrestlers of all time? Oh, at least they didn't mount Rushmore you they gave you the five. Yeah, how would Rushmore four top five wrestlers of all time? I don't even think I could see this another one where my mind's gonna be going the rest of the night. I have to I have to return the question back to Jacob and say, Jacob bib you're listening, what's your what's your category? Is it championships? Is it length of career? Is it drawing power? What you know? Because you can go down because you could have five in every category. Top five wrestlers of all I mean, for me, one of them off the top of my head, I go Padroe Morales Why would you put Pedro Morales? Because Patro Morales was outstanding what he did. Is Bruno one of the top five wrestlers of all time? I don't know one of the best champions of all time? Yes, legend, Yet Jacob, I can't answer that honestly without I want you to ask another question that I want you to break it up top five greatest champions of all time or top five greatest characters of all time. But top five wrestlers are so broad for me because I would name people I think that no one, you know, no one would even consider. Yep. This kind of segues into qu a Twitter question here from my friend Rome. He wants to know your opinion on the top three current active like active wrestlers today, top three in any in any organization. Yep, any organization. Okay, I'm I'm going seth Rollins. I'm I have to go Roman Reigns, and I have to go Chris Jericho. I'm not surprised by you saying that that doesn't surprise me a e W Wise, I have to go Chris Jericho and he's still active, right, so if you take into account of all his body work. Additionally, on top of that. Yeah, I mean he has to be to go back to the other question of Jacob, he has to be in that top five if it depending on where you want to go with it, you know, but I definitely Seth. Seth is at the top of my list, and a lot of people go, well, he's not a champions. It's not the that's not the uh the question. It's like, who's one of the top three, And I think it's I think it's set leads leads the way I would have if I don't know what's going on with Randy Orton. It seems to be his back as much worse than what we maybe originally thought. Yeah, which is very unfortunate. But if he was active in the way he was before he went out, I think he's up there. Hands I've seen the guy do something bad. Hands hands down, he's, he's, he's and and I guess see, if you go champion character all these things, Randy Orton's in my top five because Randy Orton's just unbelievable, uh, top to bottom. But I think to your point, he's been out injured, so it's kind of I don't forget about him. But if people were active now you know what I mean. So, yeah, Randy's in a class by himself. He doesn't even get like, there's the top five. And then there's people that are not to use the term whitely elite. How many people could you just put the title on at any moment in time and you're like, oh, okay, let's go he's one of them. Yeah, and people just go, yeah, we're with it. They wouldn't go, yeah, we're down with that. Yeah, he's he's the man. Yeah, that's actually good question that gets that gets me thinking. Yeah, And because I actually got an argument a while back. Somebody asked me who I thought was the best, and they said Kenny Omega, will Osfory. Then they said seth Rawlins. I said seth Rawlins because of the also the stage that he's done this on. That says something. It's like playing Division one basketball compared to Division three. Oh, they're gonna say, Jeff, it's not a real competition. Well, it's still harder to perform on the bigger levels. It doesn't make it's an even easier. So I got to in the consistency of that schedule, seth Rawlins has got to be the guy. When I got asked that situation. So I feel you. Yeah, and Kenny's in the class by himself as well. Yeah no, And that's not not saying he's not great. That's just what seth Rawlins has done over this time on that level is remarkable. Yeah. Yeah, his his body of work is impeccable. Um, just another success story. Yep. See what else we got here? Those good questions. I like these questions. Yeah, these are good questions. This is a Michelle wants to know. It's Twitter friend, it's your favorite tag team of all time? Hmm. This isn't like saying the best, it's just your favorite. So this is a little it'd be hard it'd be hard pressed for me, as someone who considered himself a big big man at the time. I have to go with the road Warriors. I mean, it's just my favorite tag team of all time has to be the Road Wars. Early in my career, I everything I try to do was like animals like Joe to the to the mohawk, to the you know, to the goatee, to trying to beat big bulky son of a gun. Uh yeah, to meet my favorite tag team all times, Road war This ties into the question that I had. I love talking and hearing stories about legitimate tough guys. We're on to one right now. We're talking about the road. We're talking about the road. We were talking about those guys. Who are some other legitimate tough guys that stand out to you? I'll start it off. I always hear stories about Booker T. I always hear stories about Booker T putting Batista in his place. The Booker T's not somebody you'd want to mess with. What say you and your experience? Who are some legitimate tough guys? Well, I'd start by saying, I don't. I don't consider Booker T a tough guy. I consider Booker T a man's man. Yeah, I don't. I don't consider him a tough guy to meet. I don't know. I think, yeah, Booker Booker's not gonna let you take liberties, and he stands up for what he believes in. He's a man's man. I think there's a lot of a lot of that, which I'm a big fan of. Toughest toughest guy I know, and the stories will never end has to be HAWKU has to be being yeah, I mean that, you know, just being able to I was up and down the road with him in barb for years, and driving and rooming and traveling and under the knowledge tree with him for so long, but then to to physic. Listen, here's one story that's harmless. We're in Rochester, New York, Roadblock's hometown. So Roadblock wanted to take us to a local place to get a bite to eat in the beer we go in. So it's me. Now here's the thing, I'm the smallest guy in the group. It's me hok and Roadblock. I'm the smallest guy in the group at six two three sixty. Well, we walk into the bar. They know Big Joe. They've set us up. The sandwiches are coming right, a cold drink. It's after we're working. We're gonna have We're gonna have something to drink and something to eat, and we're going back because we leave the next day. Well, these guys were out of control. They see the wrestlers come in. One guy got down on all fours and his buddy was gonna shove Hakku to make him fall Godchip from behind. Okay, so before this happens, Ming turns around, googles the guy puts him on the ground. The other guy comes from behind, and before Big Joe and I can move with his other hand, he grabs the other guy, puts him on top of him, on top of the other guy. Yeah, so he's got him both one on top of each other and I'm literally topping on the shoulder and he looks at me. I go, King, it's Hugh, let's go aid and moved. I'm not pressing my luck. I'm on inside and were watching his back or nobody else is jumping right, and then you fight tap him, King, come on, let's let's go okay, and he gets up and we walk out. That bar was silent. I've seen that man stop cowboy bars five hundred people on the dance for walk up to the djo. I want to do the macarena and guy says, we don't play the maccharina here. I wanted to do the macarena. The gay put on the macarena, and then King got on the floor and did the marcarina. Tough guys don't have to be tough. But that guy took no crap from anybody in the ring. Outside the ring, his reputation is not enhanced in any way, and he is the biggest sweetheart that I've ever met. But you talk about tough guys, dude, those are the of island guys. You know, all all the Samoan guys, all those all those cats are tough. Um, all the all the island guys. Barbs another tough guy. And then then then there's there's guys who can go you Rick Rude, Scott Norton. But the Minnesota guys, you know, it just depending on what part of the you know, the Florida guys were tough. There was a lot of tough guys in the business, but there were far and few between that stood out and everybody went, I'm out. There's certain guys that walked walked it a certain way, and to me, I haven't met it. I haven't. I personally haven't met a tougher guy than then Hucke. Yeah, and they always It's well documented that Andre the giant, it was only afraid of two people. He was in. Huckey is one of them. The other one to be Harley Race. As far as haven't fear, you know, he respected this too. He feared them to an extent. Harley Race just had a way of looking at you when he talked to you and to me he just commanded your respect, and you always felt like if you disrespected him, that man's gonna punch you right in the mouth. Like I thought, Dick Murdoch was a tough he was a tough guy. Harley Reefs was a tough guy in a different way, you know what I mean. But again, it's reputations and and the things how you carried yourself in a time when they were literally had to be tough guys because they were fighting for their lives outside the ring as well, you know. So it's a different mitset. But there's I think there's a big difference between guys, men's men and tough guys, and there's there there were a lot of there were a lot of tough guys. Bob Orton's cast makes a comeback this week from a Twitter account. I'm gonna have to follow this Bob Orton's cast on Twitter. I'm gonna have to follow him. What's the worst wrestling gimmick character of all time? Gooby Gobbler? Yeah, the gobbling googer. I thought the the what was the what they call the hockey guy, the goon goon. I thought the people man who I'm a big fan of Marry. I think he's great, and I thought he was a really good, good ring general. But I thought the Repo man was was terrible. Uh. Man of talking about that one character they had that big like buffalo head on or bison head on it. He couldn't even get their warm Yeah. Yeah, I couldn't even get to the ropes. And then of course the YETI the guy covered in toilet paper, the seven foot mummy man. That's a good question that that that there's been some rough once throughout the year. Yeah, we could go we could go down the line a little bit. Uh. Huge erection was terrible. That was one of the worst gimmicks. Emmer. Uh. Glacier sounded like it was gonna be really cool. What happened with that, because we talked about Glacier a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, that was a cool Like the theme of Mortal Kombat was really popular. Yeah, it seems like it would work, but it just it went layout like a fart in church there in WCW. Yeah. I think the concept, I mean, the old up was unbelievable. Yeah, I mean you had to spend some money on that too. They spend a ton of money on it. And the guys were all invested in it, and it's just after all that build up, it just it just never took off. And it wasn't because of the of the guys in those Gibbicks. They just I think once they did it. I think Glacier had a cool entrance, but the people, be honest, scenes just weren't feeling it, so they didn't. It goes back to if they don't put stock into something like that, they're just gonna let it. See, They're gonna let it play on its own. And sometimes you need you need help. Because all those guys in the Mortists and Wrath and you know, the only guy that didn't fit that thing was Ernest A. Cab Miller, Yeah, you know, because he was still Ernest Miller the same thing. So I think they kind of just they they they started something really cool. I thought the concept was great, and then they just let it. They didn't help it along, They didn't help it grow. I don't I personally don't feel like they did. All right, my buddy, Well, this will be the last question here, and I like this one. My buddy Dave wants to know what it is, what it's like being around the Undertaker as far as the whole vibe you get when he comes out in the arena, backstage, and the whole persona of that character. Walk us through your feelings on that. I've had to, you know, I've I've been blessed with years of working with Taker and behind the scenes, you know, being part of that Domino group and you know, just a bunch of guys who would relax and not have to worry about all this other stuff. And we go out and we've played you know, we've played bones, and we talk and we get things. And I remember the first time I worked with him, when I knew I was gonna work with him, that night, I saw him in a different like like that was the first time I felt like, oh my gosh, this is the end of Taker. And I literally was the most uncomfortable I've ever been in the ring with anyone. And I you know, I've been fortunate to be in the ring with everybody, but getting in the ring at night would take It was like, please don't let me disrespect this guy. Please let me you know, be, you know, be do my job and all that stuff. And at the end, at the end of time, you man, you've gotta You've got to relax, and I'm like, well, no shit, I gotta relax. But it's very it was very intimidating, and it wasn't him intimidating me. It was just very intimidating to be in the ring with that guy, with that persona I know him in the back. You know, we talked Elvis, we you know, share music, we you know, we've had dinner to Keth, you know all these things. But that the nights I was gonna work with him the first time on TV total, I was a deer in the headlight said, oh my gosh, I can't believe him in the ring with the Undertaker. The good news was we got to do a bunch of bunch of loops together and tag events stuff. It was intimidating for me in a good way. It kind of brought me because I fell into the oh my gosh, this is the Undertaker, and so it was. It was. It was cool, but it was very, very intimidating that there's nobody else that could pull off because the character itself is a little unbelievable. If it was anybody else but him. Yeah, I think if you dissect it, you would go oh, that's so far fetched. Probably one of the most believable characters in the history of the business. And it's always said that he was pretty straightforward with that outside of the ring too. He didn't see him doing a lot too much public stuff or he really lived, he really respected to live that. Yeah, and and and that's why I said it was an honor to be part of that group of guys that played bones and kind of hung out with him behind because to the building, out of the building, on airplanes, everywhere in public, that that persona stayed there. So for him to trust you, and I felt like when you're in that like that circle of trust, as I say, where he can kind of just relax and be him was very cool. But yeah, he carried that to all these years to where now like he does the one man show and people are getting to know the man behind the Undertaker, which is which is really cool, which is a whole nother career for him now. Yeah, you know, because he's the one guy who protected his gimmick from start to finish. That character was protected the whole time he he did it until it was time for him not to do it anymore. I would go ahead and to say that he would be in my top five. Yeah. Yeah. To me, he's like, that's a he's a whole other level. That's a different yep. Yeah, Well this is pretty fun, man. We gotta we were grinded down on some really niche stuff the last couple of weeks, and we'll get back at it again. It's fun, but it was kind of nice just to answer some questions. And yeah, I like the questions. I like, we're I'm gonna have to start following all these people. They follow me on Twitter so I can follow you by Yeah, let him know. Yeah, say out to people that ask the question. Bob Orton's cast, Yeah, let me know because this keep the questions coming. This is good stuff. I like the I like the the the change every once in a while to do this. It's really cool. We'll have to try to change it every once at all. And it's a little bit easier on me too, right, I mean, let's be honest, Yes it's a little bit easier on me. But I'm ready to get back at it here. So no, Bill, like we said, talk to us, you're on Twitter, I'm on Twitter, You're at build Amont, I'm at podcast on squorefather. We've got build Amont pot at gmail dot com. We've also got a contact form that I need to make sure goes to RML, but it's going to mind right now because I've used the website before, like the infrastructure of our build Amont dot com. I got to yea, there is a contact forum on there as well, so yeah, we're still I'm still tinkering with that, trying to get it a little bit tidied up, but it's pretty neat to see. So yeah, No, we encourage you to reach out and talk to us. If you're listening on a platform, you can rate it. That would be awesome too. Share it with your fringe. Hey, and the and the website. Dude, you got the website. I think it looks eight I really do. I appreciate uh the time and you're everything you're putting into it. So yeah, everybody keep following it so we can we can get you guys more involved than uh. And I can't wait to see this thing continue to grow. Absolutely. Thank you for your time. It's always Bill. We'll be back next week. Until then, keep being you, keep being great, Thank you brother, good stuff you can get sat Molly y'all Spanish, y'all models. Jeff counting media bart